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    Christie says hes changed his mind on guns, supports easy concealed-carry licensing

    And the biggest reason that I changed my mind was my seven years as a federal prosecutor. What I learned in those seven years was that we were spending much too much time talking about gun laws against law-abiding citizens and not nearly enough time talking about enforcing the gun laws strongly against criminals.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-supports-ea/

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...ie-guns-217437

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    I have never met an U.S. Attorney that I would trust. I have met a few over the years and they never answer a question with a straight answer. There answers are scummy diversions.

    That puts Cruz on a little bit of shaky ground. Christie is a big fat goose egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    I have never met an U.S. Attorney that I would trust. I have met a few over the years and they never answer a question with a straight answer. There answers are scummy diversions.

    That puts Cruz on a little bit of shaky ground. Christie is a big fat goose egg.
    And I know that they do not like citizens calling them up and complaining about their job performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    And the biggest reason that I changed my mind was my seven years as a federal prosecutor. What I learned in those seven years was that we were spending much too much time talking about gun laws against law-abiding citizens and not nearly enough time talking about enforcing the gun laws strongly against criminals.
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    First he was agin'em, now he's for 'em. Follow the money to P4P.
    First of all, what has he done as governor of one of the virulently anti-RKBA States in the union? If this epiphany about concealed carry (or anything else to do with guns) came as a result of his work as a federal prosecutor, he should be able to point to at least a modest list of actions or at least proposals as governor to move New Jersey at least a little bit in a better direction.

    How many changes to law has he asked his legislature to make on these matters?

    How many pardons has he given to otherwise law abiding citizens arrested and prosecuted under the anti-RKBA, unconstitutional State laws he claims to oppose?

    How many public speeches has he given on the matter before running for president?

    This has NOTHING to do with money for permits. This is about trying to win a GOP nomination in a national election. As was said a few years back about Romney on this and other subjects I'll say about Christie here:


    A conversion on the road to Damascus is one thing...a conversion on the road to DesMoines is quite another.

    Not only is Christie a gun grabbing, liberal RINO, he is a lying piece of crap, and a stupid bully to boot. Shutting down lanes on a bridge to exact political retribution?!?!

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    Christie voices support for N.J. handgun law, but sidesteps legal battles. http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...est_court.html

    Christie announces change to N.J. gun policy on eve of 2016 kickoff. http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...cy_on_eve.html

    Christie blames Dems for N.J. gun laws, cites delay in handgun sale to slain woman. http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...p_so_he_c.html

    Interesting...
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    The only thing that will make me trust that RINO is if he signs an executive order nullifying ALL state firearms laws and accepts there is no right of his state or city within that state to pass any legislation related to the keeping and bearing of arms
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    No one has call that fat retard a liar yet? I will.

    He's just lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    No one has call that fat retard a liar yet? I will.

    He's just lying.
    I'd suggest editing that before Grapeshot has you. I don't think he is any more retarded than Obama himself. Both no exactly what they are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinglibertarian View Post
    I'd suggest editing that before Grapeshot has you. I don't think he is any more retarded than Obama himself. Both no exactly what they are doing.
    There's a difference between attacking someone and simply stating a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinglibertarian View Post
    I'd suggest editing that before Grapeshot has you. I don't think he is any more retarded than Obama himself. Both no(sic) exactly what they are doing.
    May I presume that the personal pronoun "he" refers to Christie in this instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    May I presume that the personal pronoun "he" refers to Christie in this instance. [emoji38]
    Of course. And I should watch my spelling

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    Originally Posted by Grapeshot
    May I presume that the personal pronoun "he" refers to Christie in this instance.
    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinglibertarian View Post
    Of course. And I should watch my spelling

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    I didn't say - I said

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    Quote Originally Posted by utbagpiper View Post
    First of all, what has he done as governor of one of the virulently anti-RKBA States in the union? If this epiphany about concealed carry (or anything else to do with guns) came as a result of his work as a federal prosecutor, he should be able to point to at least a modest list of actions or at least proposals as governor to move New Jersey at least a little bit in a better direction.

    How many changes to law has he asked his legislature to make on these matters?

    How many pardons has he given to otherwise law abiding citizens arrested and prosecuted under the anti-RKBA, unconstitutional State laws he claims to oppose?

    How many public speeches has he given on the matter before running for president?

    This has NOTHING to do with money for permits. This is about trying to win a GOP nomination in a national election. As was said a few years back about Romney on this and other subjects I'll say about Christie here:


    A conversion on the road to Damascus is one thing...a conversion on the road to DesMoines is quite another.

    Not only is Christie a gun grabbing, liberal RINO, he is a lying piece of crap, and a stupid bully to boot. Shutting down lanes on a bridge to exact political retribution?!?!

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    He has pardoned a few people, see Shaneen Allen and Brian Aitken, as well as a veto of a 50 mm gun ban. He's talked before about the gun laws in NJ but he's been very evasive about shall-issue, and I don't understand why and I'm not satisfied with casting him as a gun grabber. Maybe it's a NJ disease.

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    He should face facts: he's politically dead over the bridge fiasco.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/09/politi...mer/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by press1280 View Post
    He has pardoned a few people, see Shaneen Allen and Brian Aitken, as well as a veto of a 50 mm gun ban. He's talked before about the gun laws in NJ but he's been very evasive about shall-issue, and I don't understand why and I'm not satisfied with casting him as a gun grabber. Maybe it's a NJ disease.
    Not surprised he vetoed a 50mm gun -- if only to save the firearm owner the problem of carrying around a gun that shoots 2" diameter rounds. 50mm = 1 &31/32 inches. Perhaps you meant .50 caliber?
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    Quote Originally Posted by press1280 View Post
    [ ... ] as well as a veto of a 50 mm gun ban. [ ... ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by press1280 View Post
    a veto of a 50 mm gun ban.
    Wait, you mean I could carry an autocannon in NJ? Hell yes, sign me up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    He should face facts: he's politically dead over the bridge fiasco.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/09/politi...mer/index.html

    Bridgegate has very little to do with his position here. Most of the folks, especially in the southern half of the state don't care about it one bit.

    He's toast because even though he's a Republican here, anywhere else outside the northeast, he'd be considered a Democrat.

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    Until they revise the NJ state constitution and include the federal 2nd amendment, I will not put any faith in fatso words regarding our right to keep and bear arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryclubjoe View Post
    Until they revise the NJ state constitution and include the federal 2nd amendment, I will not put any faith in fatso words regarding our right to keep and bear arms.

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    Christie says he’s changed his mind on guns, supports easy concealed-carry licensing
    Great! So then I could move to NJ and get my carry permit??? So if the governor said it, it must be true..right?

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