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    Judge nixes Obama’s executive privilege claim over Fast and Furious records

    A federal judge ruled that the Justice Department must turn over internal records about its handling of the botched Fast and Furious gun-running operation, rejecting President Obama’s assertion that disclosures can be blocked through executive privilege. U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled Tuesday that the Justice Department’s own public disclosures about the operation undercut the Obama administration’s claims.

    “The Court finds, under the unique and limited circumstances of this case, that the qualified privilege must yield, given the executive’s acknowledgment of the legitimacy of the investigation, and the fact that the Department itself has already publicly revealed the sum and substance of the very material it is now seeking to withhold,” Judge Jackson wrote. “Since any harm that would flow from the disclosures sought here would be merely incremental, the records must be produced.”

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    By the time the smoke and mirrors are cleared away, this will be a foot note to their obituaries - won't be anyone left alive who cares. Just another politician that lied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    By the time the smoke and mirrors are cleared away, this will be a foot note to their obituaries - won't be anyone left alive who cares. Just another politician that lied.
    True.

    However.

    Gulf of Tonkin. Magic bullet. Cointelpro. The Pentagon Papers. We just add it to the list to persuade the young.

    A sort of inversion on the dictum about a lie told often enough: get caught telling enough lies...
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    Even El Chapo was ridin' the Fast and Furious train:


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    We still will not get the records requested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    We still will not get the records requested.
    Or it'll be heavily redacted because security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter348 View Post
    Even El Chapo was ridin' the Fast and Furious train:
    this surprises you how? $$$ buys what is legal and illegal...F&F activities or not...

    bottom line: who cares the organization had one or where they got it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    True.

    However.

    Gulf of Tonkin. Magic bullet. Cointelpro. The Pentagon Papers. We just add it to the list to persuade the young.

    A sort of inversion on the dictum about a lie told often enough: get caught telling enough lies...
    fall away or be re-written like the any other piece of history.
    i would be more concerned about the 'sealed' mass shooting records from the last five years as well as the 911. darn citizen, et al., we can't even determine who killed the Kennedy brothers!!

    after SVG's forum discussion on Lincoln, at this point, i'm not sure John W Booth acted alone or with governmental sponsorship

    it all falls in the abyss of 'who cares' this is especially true when 10% of college graduates think judge judy sits on the supreme court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b0neZ View Post
    Or it'll be heavily redacted because security.
    LOL seen lots of record requests responses with pages and pages of just redacted docs. Its a fun game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    fall away or be re-written like the any other piece of history.
    i would be more concerned about the 'sealed' mass shooting records from the last five years as well as the 911. darn citizen, et al., we can't even determine who killed the Kennedy brothers!!

    after SVG's forum discussion on Lincoln, at this point, i'm not sure John W Booth acted alone or with governmental sponsorship

    it all falls in the abyss of 'who cares' this is especially true when 10% of college graduates think judge judy sits on the supreme court.

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    you mean she doesn't!?


    I kid of course, and that in reality is a very sad statistic.. it means our education centers truly are nothing more then thought indoctrination centers.

    heck even kindergarden is now getting into the presidents of the U.S. only I wish they would stop adding Obama... he was not a president, he was a train wreck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Homeschool to university, then be skeptical.
    most parents are functionally illiterate so they can't homeschool as they themselves do not understand the material.

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