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    IdealConceal - is it fake?

    I can't believe the 380 Derringer designed to look like a smart phone, said to be released in 2016, is a real product.



    I have my suspicions, and I've searched the web, but have seen very little about it. Anyone else thinking this is completely bogus?
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    It looks like it could be owned by a Minnesota business man.
    https://www.networksolutions.com/who...ealconceal.com
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    And I found this on what I believe to be his FB page:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberty-or-Death View Post
    I can't believe the 380 Derringer designed to look like a smart phone, said to be released in 2016, is a real product.

    I have my suspicions, and I've searched the web, but have seen very little about it. Anyone else thinking this is completely bogus?
    Snopes says it is real.
    http://www.snopes.com/cell-phone-pistol-alert/

    There is also the Taurus Curve
    http://http://www.gunsandammo.com/fi...ve-380-pistol/

    There was also the Downsizer - Skidmark had one until he got an offer he could not refuse.



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    No reason it couldn't be made has it been built into a working model only time well tell.
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    Snopes doesn't say it's real. They say it's false that "it's designed by criminals to fool police". Notice how they didn't say who DID design it?

    My question is not whether the gun is real as much as the whole website and enterprise?

    Why would an anti makes a website promoting a gun that LEO' would fear and could get you killed by a LEO? It's almost a joke, a farce, even a HOAX!

    How is it that a small-time salesman, insurance adjuster, pot-hole filler, and owner of a Minnesota trailer park that promotes gun control on his FB page also the one behind the concept of this product?

    Why are the only two reviews on their website (5 stars by the way) from Brian J and Jake K, also from Minnesota? And how did they get to "review" it?

    The site says it's patent pending, but I found nothing when doing a patent search.

    Why have there been no press conferences or press releases? Why doesn't the website have any real contact information like a name, address, or phone number? Why aren't they taking pre-orders or asking for investors?

    It all smells fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberty-or-Death View Post

    Why would an anti makes a website promoting a gun that LEO' would fear and could get you killed by a LEO? It's almost a joke, a farce, even a HOAX
    You really don't know the answer to your own question.

    Anti's lie and make stuff up all the time to promote their cause.

    If they can stir the pot just a little bit in favor of control they score.
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    It would also give an officer a valid excuse when he shoots someone that the investigation reveals was only holding a cellphone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shovelhead View Post
    It would also give an officer a valid excuse when he shoots someone that the investigation reveals was only holding a cellphone.
    Don't see that as a "valid excuse."

    The Case of the Phone Case.
    Oh and just one more thing (in best Columbo voice) - how does a fully enclosed cell phone in a cell phone case, look more like a gun in a look-alike cell phone case than a real cell phone in a cell phone case?
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    First, Officer Friendly does not need a rationale or excuse as he enjoys Qualified Immunity. The common knowledge that deadly weapons disguised or resembling cellphones are in the hands of citizens will give Officer Friendly good reason to fear for his well being on such presentation or mere suspicion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Don't see that as a "valid excuse."

    The Case of the Phone Case.
    Oh and just one more thing (in best Columbo voice) - how does a fully enclosed cell phone in a cell phone case, look more like a gun in a look-alike cell phone case than a real cell phone in a cell phone case?
    I'm thinking someone with a phone in their HAND, not in a case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shovelhead View Post
    I'm thinking someone with a phone in their HAND, not in a case.
    Acknowledged. I was jus' extrapolating.

    Officer safety can be a matter of accelerating a might-be risk to an immennent/now risk in the officer's eyes.
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    Senator Wants Investigation Into Gun That Looks Like iPhone.

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/04/0...phone-schumer/

    I wonder how much that product placement is worth.
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