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    80yr old lady shoots intruder - yeah, he's dead

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...s-her-husband/

    Calls 911 afterwards ... smart lady not wasting time calling 911 and waiting for the coroner.

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    Made the news all the way over here in MI.

    http://wwmt.com/news/nation-world/im...kills-intruder

    The shooting remains under investigation, said Shari Ireton, a spokeswoman for the Snohomish County Sheriff. It has not yet been sent to the prosecuting attorney, who would decide whether to file charges.
    Are they kidding? Who the hell is the idiot running that prosecutors office??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeSchaine View Post
    Made the news all the way over here in MI.

    http://wwmt.com/news/nation-world/im...kills-intruder



    Are they kidding? Who the hell is the idiot running that prosecutors office??
    Well the SA or DA has not seen anything yet....they are busy with actual cases. The sheriff may decide to not pursue it further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeSchaine View Post
    Are they kidding? Who the hell is the idiot running that prosecutors office??
    Maybe not an idiot. It may be that all cases involving homicide have to be screened by the prosecutor's office to make a formal determination as to whether the homicide was justified or not. In fact, I would hope that is the case. The cops who investigate ought to provide their findings. But when it comes to officially deciding whether a homicide was justified or not, I'd rather have an elected district/county attorney making the finding than an unelected police officer.

    From the media report it sounds open and shut. But since there is a dead body, it might be worth making sure the dead guy wasn't invited over by the couple, assaulted by the husband, who got stabbed in self defense, before the wife finished off the poor victim with the handgun and then claimed it was a home invasion.

    Far fetched? Sure.

    But since there is a dead person, some minimal level of investigation ought to be conducted before declaring the homicide justified.

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    Light a candle for poor Steven

    http://gunmemorial.org/2016/04/28/steven-n-sheppard
    Yes poor Steven he is a victim of gun violence/
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoneguy View Post
    http://gunmemorial.org/2016/04/28/steven-n-sheppard
    Yes poor Steven he is a victim of gun violence/
    Are you kidding me!?!?!? They even cite the source of the photo as the story about the home invasion and still have the gall to claim this guy is the victim of "gun violence?"

    Well, yes. He did die from "gun violence." But unless the prosecutor has determined something to contrary, it sounds like fully justified, necessary gun violence. Don't like being killed by gun violence at the hands of law-abiding home owners? Don't invade others' homes.

    Wow. Utterly shameless.

    And also priceless. Bookmark that one for the next time some gun grabbing troll prattles on about how many are killed by "gun violence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by utbagpiper View Post
    Are you kidding me!?!?!? They even cite the source of the photo as the story about the home invasion and still have the gall to claim this guy is the victim of "gun violence?"

    Well, yes. He did die from "gun violence." But unless the prosecutor has determined something to contrary, it sounds like fully justified, necessary gun violence. Don't like being killed by gun violence at the hands of law-abiding home owners? Don't invade others' homes.

    Wow. Utterly shameless.

    And also priceless. Bookmark that one for the next time some gun grabbing troll prattles on about how many are killed by "gun violence."

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    I'm reserving judgement on this one until we find out whether David was trying to turn his life around and make something of himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeSchaine View Post
    Made the news all the way over here in MI.

    http://wwmt.com/news/nation-world/im...kills-intruder



    Are they kidding? Who the hell is the idiot running that prosecutors office??
    Same one who charged me with interfering with the duties of a police officer. I was walking along a road while OC a pistol on my leg. Had Sno co Sheriff Officers stop me and demand my ID. I asked them to show me the law requiring me to HAVE ID at all.


    There is an old thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    Same one who charged me with interfering with the duties of a police officer. I was walking along a road while OC a pistol on my leg. Had Sno co Sheriff Officers stop me and demand my ID. I asked them to show me the law requiring me to HAVE ID at all.


    There is an old thread.

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    Unless they can articulate reasonable suspicion that they feel you committed a crime or are about to commit a crime, never show ID.. Ask if you are being detained, if not, walk away, if they say yes, plead the 5th and ask for an attorney.. Costume clowns trying to exert authority over a law abiding citizens, only thing worst than a tyrant is an ignorant tyrant..

    Good job Sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryclubjoe View Post
    Unless they can articulate reasonable suspicion that they feel you committed a crime or are about to commit a crime, never show ID.. Ask if you are being detained, if not, walk away, if they say yes, plead the 5th and ask for an attorney.. Costume clowns Officers trying to exert authority over a law abiding citizens, only thing worst than a tyrant is an ignorant tyrant..

    Good job Sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    FIFY.

    Remember Forum Rule #6 please.
    My apology Grape and also to all you fine LEOS here. However when I hear of government actors attempting to violate a law abiding citizen it gets my irish blood boiling.. I shall endeavor to exercise much more restrain..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    Same one who charged me with interfering with the duties of a police officer. I was walking along a road while OC a pistol on my leg. Had Sno co Sheriff Officers stop me and demand my ID. I asked them to show me the law requiring me to HAVE ID at all.


    There is an old thread.

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    FYI ... for Connecticut ..

    https://www.cga.ct.gov/2015/rpt/pdf/2015-R-0140.pdf OLR report

    http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/Docum...mentNo=8953633

    ^ memo of the court ^^^ commie judge decision


    https://www.cga.ct.gov/2015/act/pa/p...B-07027-PA.pdf

    ^^ 2015 law passed by legislature clarifying the actual law that was in place already that Police Dept.s here want to interpret to mean that they can harass OCers
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryclubjoe View Post
    Unless they can articulate reasonable suspicion that they feel you committed a crime or are about to commit a crime, never show ID.. Ask if you are being detained, if not, walk away, if they say yes, plead the 5th and ask for an attorney.. Costume clowns trying to exert authority over a law abiding citizens, only thing worst than a tyrant is an ignorant tyrant..

    Good job Sir!

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    Walking away would have gotten me shot.
    I did explain to them that they didn't have probable cause.
    Their only "probable cause" was 3 911 calls reporting that a man was walking down the road with a pistol strapped to his leg.
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