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    Question about auto crime in Virginia Beach/Lynhaven area

    I am going to be heading down to a B-day party in Virginia Beach this weekend and will be staying at a motel close to Norfolk International Airport for one night only. Is this an automobile crime problem area? I am very anal about my car and am concerned about attempted breakin's, someone keying the paint, and people breaking windows. It is a very nice car and is irreplaceable so if this area is a problem, I'd like to know so I can drive my truck down.

    To keep this gun-related, I will be taking one of my primary carry sidearms on this trip. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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    I see three options.

    #1) drive your truck and keep your prize posession under wraps at home - 'course that doesn't allow you to show it off.

    #2) park it in a Virginia Beach PD parking lot and take a cab to the motel. Expensive cab ride and still no guarantee.

    #3) sleep at home and drive straight through to the BD party. PS - only drive on the highway when there are no other vehicles present.

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    Not sure how to answer this since the hotel is in Norfolk and the topic is Virginia Beach/Lynnhaven which is about 10 miles from where you are asking about. Let me just say that "in general" neither area is a high crime area for autos but if the prized possession is tempting enough it may draw attention from the wrong sort of folks. That could happen anywhere in the tidewater area though if the prize were tempting enough (or anywhere else in this country)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    I see three options.

    #1) drive your truck and keep your prize posession under wraps at home - 'course that doesn't allow you to show it off.

    #2) park it in a Virginia Beach PD parking lot and take a cab to the motel. Expensive cab ride and still no guarantee.

    #3) sleep at home and drive straight through to the BD party. PS - only drive on the highway when there are no other vehicles present.

    Best of luck and keep on OCing.
    other options exist grape...

    as we did in olde days, find and pay local street thug a couple bucks watch it for you...

    contact local mall renta cops...

    hire me to drive it around while you rest so the vehicle is safe...heck, might do it for free depending on vintage and uniquiness and so forth

    uh, sure there are futher options available

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    A valuable car's condition has more hazards than rise to the level of crime. I had a new exotic foreign car on a road trip and had to sit in it most of the night for a drunken graduation party held in the hotel. We now inquire about special events at an overnight site and near by.

    I would drive the truck if the car is indeed irreplaceable. If it is irreplaceable then it needs enough insurance to maintain it in pristine condition against foreseeable hazards.
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    Sleep in the car.

    You're not allowed to defend "mere property", but if it's a robbery (e.g, you're in the car and someone's trying to take it from your personal possession through threats, force, or intimidation), that puts it in the self defense / stopping a serious felony in progress category. Besides, if you're sleeping in the car, perhaps "defense of habitation" applies, too.

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    Irreplacable and valuable?

    Must be a ....



    YUGO !


    I recommend you take Solus up on his offer to drive you around ... he only wants unlimited beer for payment (wear a helmet !) .. can't beat that offer.

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    at least it wasn't this piece of transportation from Deutsche Demokratische Republik...shudder


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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    at least it wasn't this piece of transportation from Deutsche Demokratische Republik...shudder


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    I'd like to hear what vehicle that the OP is so worried about. If it's Elvis' caddy, its understandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    I see three options.

    #1) drive your truck and keep your prize posession under wraps at home - 'course that doesn't allow you to show it off.

    #2) park it in a Virginia Beach PD parking lot and take a cab to the motel. Expensive cab ride and still no guarantee.

    #3) sleep at home and drive straight through to the BD party. PS - only drive on the highway when there are no other vehicles present.

    Best of luck and keep on OCing.
    #1) Since I'm not someone who relishes in showing off his things, that doesn't apply to me. The garage is its home when home.

    #2) Might the VBPD have it towed? That would be a nightmare for sure.

    #3) Hmmm.... while not a bad idea, that would put it pretty late for arriving home and for the next B-Day party that day. I've driven once all through the night when tired and I do NOT what to do that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrearick View Post
    Not sure how to answer this since the hotel is in Norfolk and the topic is Virginia Beach/Lynnhaven which is about 10 miles from where you are asking about. Let me just say that "in general" neither area is a high crime area for autos but if the prized possession is tempting enough it may draw attention from the wrong sort of folks. That could happen anywhere in the tidewater area though if the prize were tempting enough (or anywhere else in this country)
    Yes it certainly could. It's just that for me, I am not familiar with that area so I haven't a clue where the more questionable parts of the Tidewater are found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    A valuable car's condition has more hazards than rise to the level of crime. I had a new exotic foreign car on a road trip and had to sit in it most of the night for a drunken graduation party held in the hotel. We now inquire about special events at an overnight site and near by.

    I would drive the truck if the car is indeed irreplaceable. If it is irreplaceable then it needs enough insurance to maintain it in pristine condition against foreseeable hazards.
    It's a 2016 model and by irreplaceable, I meant that in its current configuration, it is the last of the breed for that manufacturer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by user View Post
    Sleep in the car.

    You're not allowed to defend "mere property", but if it's a robbery (e.g, you're in the car and someone's trying to take it from your personal possession through threats, force, or intimidation), that puts it in the self defense / stopping a serious felony in progress category. Besides, if you're sleeping in the car, perhaps "defense of habitation" applies, too.

    I did that once in 1965 between Ocean City and Rehoboth. Cop woke us up just after sunrise and said we couldn't do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I'd like to hear what vehicle that the OP is so worried about. If it's Elvis' caddy, its understandable.
    It's a 2016 Audi S4 manual. I ordered it in June of last year and took delivery in late September. It was one of the last ones built with a manual transmission and Audi no longer offers the S4 with a manual. But it wouldn't matter what car it was. With me, it's my property and I hold such things dear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    It's a 2016 Audi S4 manual. I ordered it in June of last year and took delivery in late September. It was one of the last ones built with a manual transmission and Audi no longer offers the S4 with a manual. But it wouldn't matter what car it was. With me, it's my property and I hold such things dear.
    I'm surprised you answered their question as it doesn't matter. All part that MATTERS IS THE BOLD.

    I wouldn't worry about the car being damaged as much as I would care about comfort,mpg and driving a manual in heavy traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    It's a 2016 Audi S4 manual. I ordered it in June of last year and took delivery in late September. It was one of the last ones built with a manual transmission and Audi no longer offers the S4 with a manual. But it wouldn't matter what car it was. With me, it's my property and I hold such things dear.
    Heck - leave the doors unlocked - nobody under 45 knows how to drive a manual stick....

    Other option w/b to stay at a nicer hotel w valet parking - just like in Ferris Buehler....

    I thought the hotels around Newport News-Yorktown area were nice & quiet. Especially the business hotels on the weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I'm surprised you answered their question as it doesn't matter. All part that MATTERS IS THE BOLD.

    I wouldn't worry about the car being damaged as much as I would care about comfort,mpg and driving a manual in heavy traffic.

    You can borrow my 03 Excursion... if you like..
    You're right. It is my property and that's really what's important. As for it being a manual, I love it. Only owned one automatic in my life that was my personal driving machine. Don't wish to make that mistake again.

    As for your Excursion, I have a rather new truck (2014 Nissan Frontier King Cab) which I still might take down there. Haven't made up my mind yet, but comparing the truck to the S4 is like comparing a Civic to a Corvette. Worlds apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    Heck - leave the doors unlocked - nobody under 45 knows how to drive a manual stick....

    Other option w/b to stay at a nicer hotel w valet parking - just like in Ferris Buehler....

    I thought the hotels around Newport News-Yorktown area were nice & quiet. Especially the business hotels on the weekend.
    That's a service I would never even consider with one of my vehicles. A rental, yes, but not one of mine.
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    Rent a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    Rent a car.

    Norfolk is a hole.
    Even the area close to (a little east of) the airport? From the Google pictures, it doesn't look like someplace where one might find much crime activity.
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    Well, folks that live in tidewater are saying the areas you inquire about are not bad, those that live outside the area call the place in question a hole......

    Here is a link for electronic police reports. Put in the address and see what kind of police activity is happening in those areas. Then you don't have to try and figure out who to believe.

    https://www.vbgov.com/government/dep...ages/epro.aspx
    http://hamptonroads.com/newsdata/crime/norfolk
    http://hamptonroads.com/2012/12/virg...eaconcom-crime

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    Park in the Airport Short term Lot

    Norfolk International Airport has a nice covered parking lot with lots of airport authority police. Park there and take the hotel's free shuttle to and from the hotel. This will not be free, but your baby will be well guarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrearick View Post
    Well, folks that live in tidewater are saying the areas you inquire about are not bad, those that live outside the area call the place in question a hole......

    Here is a link for electronic police reports. Put in the address and see what kind of police activity is happening in those areas. Then you don't have to try and figure out who to believe.

    https://www.vbgov.com/government/dep...ages/epro.aspx
    http://hamptonroads.com/newsdata/crime/norfolk
    http://hamptonroads.com/2012/12/virg...eaconcom-crime
    Thank you. Nothing shows up in the area where the motel is for auto theft/vandalism, etc.
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    OP, just ensure you post on this public forum the exact location of your vehicle to save us having to search too hard for it...to guard it, ya that's it ~ guard it for ya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    OP, just ensure you post on this public forum the exact location of your vehicle to save us having to search too hard for it...to guard it, ya that's it ~ guard it for ya...

    ipse
    Uhh, on a corner in Winslow, Arizona.
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