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    Watch lists ineffective, yet FBI Comey still defends.

    But Mateen was removed from the watch list shortly after the closure of the investigation, so his legal purchase this month of two firearms raised no alarms. The owner of the gun store said Mateen passed a full background check in June.
    “Certainly in retrospect in this case, we would have liked to have known about it,” Ms. Yates said Monday of the firearms purchase.

    Asked whether she thought policy should be changed to allow flagging of suspects who purchase firearms after they have been dropped from watch lists, Ms. Yates [ US Deputy Attorney General Sally Yaters ]said it was a determination that would take a “longer and more thoughtful look.” [my emphasis]

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    Just another way of denying rights.

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    BR checks ... that will solve all these issues. BR checks violate your RKBA. All freemen can purchase...

    I cannot see why the guy could not purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    [ ... ]I cannot see why the guy could not purchase.
    He could and did legally. Background checks DO NOT infringe RKABA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    He could and did legally. Background checks DO NOT infringe RKABA.
    I think so. Start a thread on the matter if you so desire. I need no further information to understand why BR chks violate my rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    He could and did legally. Background checks DO NOT infringe RKABA.
    If a background check results in a denial of purchase, even though the individual has no valid reason not to own or carry in our society, then the background check most certainly did infringe on the individual's right to keep and bear arms.

    The idea that background checks never generate any false positives is ludicrous. A number of threads on this forum indicate that people have been wrongly tagged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    He could and did legally. Background checks DO NOT infringe RKABA.
    They most certainly infringe prior restraint. And if your name ever shows up on the list in error, you'll probably believe your RKBA has been infringed.

    How about this: Those who can't purchase a gun are kept in prison or secure mental hospitals. Those who are allowed to walk the streets unsupervised are allowed to buy, sell, manufacture, own, and carry on their person the firearms of their choosing without government infringement.

    They also get to attend church if they'd like, read or publish newspapers, peacefully assemble, be free from unreasonable search and seizure, access an attorney if accused of a crime, and be secure in their person, papers, and effects, among other modest rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utbagpiper View Post
    How about this: Those who can't purchase a gun are kept in prison or secure mental hospitals. Those who are allowed to walk the streets unsupervised are allowed to buy, sell, manufacture, own, and carry on their person the firearms of their choosing without government infringement.

    They also get to attend church if they'd like, read or publish newspapers, peacefully assemble, be free from unreasonable search and seizure, access an attorney if accused of a crime, and be secure in their person, papers, and effects, among other modest rights.

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    Sounds like a plan, Charles. A great plan, in fact, one conceived about, oh... 240 years ago.
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