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    Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Cl

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    Look, the fix was in from the very beginning.

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    Why did we have to hear about it everyday for all this time? The outcome was obvious from day 1.
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    Is this the tipping point, does the frog start to boil now or is it just another increment of compromise?

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    As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.

    From link in OPs post....

    Does this prohibit a citizen's arrest upon her?

    That would be classic.

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    Hang on just a second.

    I recall reading Andrew Napolitano (retired judge) saying the federal statute in question did not need criminal intent. And, that a few people have already been prosecuted for violating the statute.



    I can't help but wonder if Comey is hedging his bets against a Hitlery win. If she did win, his job wouldn't be all that secure unless she was convicted. I can't help but wonder if possibly being on the receiving end of political pay-back entered his calculations.

    Alternatively, somebody on talk-radio reminded listeners of Hillary's possession of FBI files during the Clinton presidency. Although the files were returned, the Clintons would still know the information. Blackmail: "Vote this way or a reporter is going to get wind of that time you [insert embarrassing morsel from the FBI files.]"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Hang on just a second.I recall reading Andrew Napolitano (retired judge) saying the federal statute in question did not need criminal intent. And, that a few people have already been prosecuted for violating the statute.
    That is correct. The charge is gross negligence which obviates the element of intent.

    There is currently a case of a sailor with images of his secure workspace on his cellphone. He is pleading guilty to two felony counts - as though a machinist mate has intent to damage the USA.

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    House Republicans to FBI:
    "We have an important political agenda, and you're totally messing it up.
    You arrived at the wrong conclusion. Go back and try again."

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    U.S. AG impanel a Grand Jury for a True Bill of Indictment

    We the people have the same option that we always do when law enforcement does not recommend charges, for the people's prosecutor to impanel a Grand Jury and pursue a True Bill of Indictment.
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    She could behead the pope on live television and not be indicted. Our government is corrupt, and most of the public does not care.

    Hopefully if Trump is elected a lot more people than just Hillary will see the inside of a jail cell. I truly hope he is for real, and that he wins. I fully expect him to order the prosecution of Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    She could behead the pope on live television and not be indicted. Our government is corrupt, and most of the public does not care.

    Hopefully if Trump is elected a lot more people than just Hillary will see the inside of a jail cell. I truly hope he is for real, and that he wins. I fully expect him to order the prosecution of Hillary.
    Would much prefer the conviction of Shillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Would much prefer the conviction of Shillary.
    I prefer something different myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I prefer something different myself.
    There is nothing more different than a conviction of Hag Hillary. McBeth means something else, an alternative to Hillary's conviction. I believe that McBeth wants to be in congress with Mrs. Clinton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I fully expect him to order the prosecution of Hillary.
    heh heh heh. Yes despite history's lessons THIS time will be different. THIS time the politician will do what he says he will.
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    Most thinking people knew that Hillary would not be charged, what we didn't know was that Comey would violate protocol and take time at the press conference to campaign for Trump. Had this gone the other way, the teapublicans would be dancing in the streets and throwing Comey parties and praising his name for such a great job, but instead big crocodile tears and stomping and crying it's not fair. Isn't it generally the right who staunchly claim .. life's not fair.. get over it...?
    I suspect the whining will drop off pretty quickly on this one. They've got Tarmacgate coming up, and the teapot can only hold so many tempests. The base canít follow more than one at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    I suspect the whining will drop off pretty quickly on this one. They've got Tarmacgate coming up, and the teapot can only hold so many tempests. The base canít follow more than one at a time.
    And the "useful idiots" think their Prog dictators actually care about them.

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    If the Prog elites cared about the victims of gay bashing, lynchings, and other violent "hate crimes" (so-called, love crimes are hard to come by), they would encourage private ownership of firearms and training in effective use of those guns. "Armed gays don't get bashed," as the Pink Pistols say. Instead, the Prog Elites pass another worthless law; keeping unpopular minorities always in enough fear and enough dependence to keep voting for the Progs.

    When the elite (of any political persuasion) get a pass on far worse conduct than gets small people felony convictions with prison time and lifetime loss of rights, nobody is safe. beebobby and her other useful idiot colleagues may not be the first to find the conduct of the Prog Elites to be offensive. But if you're not in the inner-circle, your day will come sooner or later. Soviet bread lines had no idea whether those standing in them thought communism was grand or foolish.

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    I guessed that someone would try and make the Olympic quality leap from "not enough evidence to bring charges" to "Soviet breadlines". I was correct (again).

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    I guessed that someone would try and make the Olympic quality leap from "not enough evidence to bring charges" to "Soviet breadlines". I was correct (again).
    Anyone can retrodict, sight through your hinder is always 20-20. So specific a prediction would be impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    I guessed that someone would try and make the Olympic quality leap from "not enough evidence to bring charges" to "Soviet breadlines". I was correct (again).
    And you can provide documentation of this prescient prediction?

    Here is my prediction: Progs and their useful idiots will never be self-consistent enough not to be the worst of hypocrites.

    Due process and sufficient evidence are great excuses to justify not holding your Prog Elites to account. When it comes to the exercise of an individual, constitutionally enumerated, fundamental civil right like buying a gun, however, you are more than happy to completely abrogate that right based on secret government lists, compiled without sufficient evidence to even prosecute, much less convict.

    After all, if there is sufficient evidence to prosecute anyone on the "No Fly" or "Suspected Terrorist" list of any crime at all, much less any crime sufficiently serious to impose a deprivation of a fundamental civil right ("Settle law" as you Progs like to say about any pronouncement from the SCOTUS you agree with) certainly the government would actually prosecute, convict, and lock up these dangerous criminals in prison rather than letting them walk freely among us to plan and carry out violent attacks against the innocent.

    Of course, socialism works great if only the right people are in charge? And if you have to violently eliminate a few of the rabble who are too stupid to see the wisdom of your ways, well the greater good and all of that, I'm sure.

    Anyone low level grunt who did half as much to negligently compromise classified information as Hillary has done would already be in prison with his family bankrupted and homeless. But the party that claims to be for the little guy, will give their Prog Elites a pass every time.

    Hypocrites is too kind a word for Progs.

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    At this very moment a nuclear qualified USN machinist mate is pleading guilty to two felony charges stemming from him having images of his secure workplace on his cellphone. As though a MM could form the specific intent to harm the US. TRUMP the establishment. TRUMP you BB.
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    Am I the only one that feels like Comey wanted very badly to get a message across with that statement?

    Calling her out for multiple obvious offenses, making very clear that she's been lying all along and leading viewers with half a brain down the road to charges without actually recommending them. It felt like he made the case for a recommendation of charges to the public, but didn't actually do it. Why go through all that, especially with the amount of damning evidence he put out there, rather than put out a simple statement saying "We're done and we dont think its a prosecutable case"?

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    That's because everything he laid out, was none of the FBI's business. FBI investigation ended with "We do not recommend prosecution". Everything else was his attempt to knock down Clinton's chances of being elected. Looking up his history shows a clear dislike of the Clinton's, even from 20 years ago and Whitewater.

    She violated State department POLICIES, which are not in the FBI's jurisdiction. So why did he mention it???
    He claimed that she sent email that COULD HAVE BEEN intercepted, but had no evidence to show that it had been. So why did he mention it???
    He criticized her for using a non-secured personal email server, despite the fact that there was no evidence to show that it had ever been hacked (unlike the official "secured" server). So why did he mention it???
    Why did he feel the need to do a press release, despite already having submitted the results to the committee? This is not SOP for FBI investigations.

    I will tell you why..He is working for the RNC and thatís where he gets his marching orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    That's because everything he laid out, was none of the FBI's business. FBI investigation ended with "We do not recommend prosecution". Everything else was his attempt to knock down Clinton's chances of being elected. Looking up his history shows a clear dislike of the Clinton's, even from 20 years ago and Whitewater.

    She violated State department POLICIES, which are not in the FBI's jurisdiction. So why did he mention it???
    He claimed that she sent email that COULD HAVE BEEN intercepted, but had no evidence to show that it had been. So why did he mention it???
    He criticized her for using a non-secured personal email server, despite the fact that there was no evidence to show that it had ever been hacked (unlike the official "secured" server). So why did he mention it???
    Why did he feel the need to do a press release, despite already having submitted the results to the committee? This is not SOP for FBI investigations.

    I will tell you why..He is working for the RNC and thatís where he gets his marching orders.
    So that I'm clear:

    You're under the impression he's on the Republican payroll and has a clear bias against HRC. He had a golden opportunity to recommend a prosecution (which is damaging, regardless of the outcome) of what you believe to be his political enemy and he didn't. Why is that?

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    Everything he said other than "no recommendation of charges" was for his republican bosses. To my mind the most pertinent reason that Comey gave for not recommending charges, aside from the obvious fact that there was not, after thorough investigation, any indication of malicious intent, was that he could not find a single example to establish precedent that would support a criminal charge, meaning that he obviously looked into that possibility as part of his lengthy investigation. That makes Trump's shallow and slogan-reinforcing statement, "The system is rigged!" look like what it is, knee jerk blather that he somehow imagines will appeal to anyone outside of his chanting, robotic base.

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