Indeed nice try, but a fanny pack is not a flap style holster.
you are reaping what you sow'd...
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Indeed nice try, but a fanny pack is not a flap style holster.
No, no - I walk the line.you are reaping what you sow'd...
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Yeah discrete open carry is what I'm pondering, not because of any reason, really.
I'd imagine if you had a dress shirt and it was black with a pattern, say like this:
X X X X X
..X.X.X.X
...or similar, and you had a handgun with an IWB holster, and the handgrip of the firearm had the same pattern, it would be extremely discrete. The pattern breaks up the lines, and the IWB holster conceals the bottom half.
Here, in Va, where they have 'Va tuck', you could consider that a no-permit-needed. (we have a permit, so I'm not trying to evade the rule).
Also, I'm not sure I asked this, but if you are driving a car in Va and you HAVE a permit and you are OC-ing, do you have to present (if asked) the permit since you are not Conceal-carrying?
In fact, let's say you say nothing, just give the officer your proof-of-insurance, Va DRLicence and Owner's Permit and say NOTHING - are you copacetic, good-to-go, 99% safe from LEO messing around with you? ("Get out of the car", "Any guns in the car", "Are you carrying?", "Do you have a permit?"). These are all questions that you don't HAVE to answer, just be polite.
Am I correct?
I have only been stopped twice in 30+ years, so again, just pondering for the sake of argument.
We've even toyed with the idea of locking up the EDC in a tool box, just out of reach, to not have to be forced to surrender the piece, or answer questions.
I understand that in Va, the rule is 'if carrying in or about the person you must present the permit on demand'. (it says nothing about talking about the firearm).
In this climate of agitated LEO, I'm just thinking about options on the road.
TIA
Who would that be?
Cite please.
Various Illinois district attorneys in the 80's and 90's that I spoke to.
Completely WRONG! OC is not considered legal in Illinois, so there is no way that fanny pack can be considered unconcealed. It can be considered a gun case used for transportation but the gun must be unloaded, before the concealed carry law. BTW a card board box can be considered a gun case.
The proper response is Personal Communication, rather than promoting a self-serving and incontrovertible lie.
Really? Many DAs in IL prior to the McDonald case allowed people to fanny pack carry w/o fear of being arrested. Due to their belief that OC was a right ... regardless of state law that disallowed it.