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    No prison time for this guy...stole 4,000 bucks .. due to taking drugs

    U.S. District Judge James Peterson said that there was no legitimate reason to send former officer Andrew Pullum to prison, given that he is no longer a police officer and that his crime was sparked by stress, depression and other mental health concerns that caused him to self-medicate with cocaine and marijuana.
    http://host.madison.com/news/local/c...c5abc7610.html

    "self medicate" eh? I guess he's a doctor now.

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    And while not excusing what Pullum did, Peterson said there were no legitimate legal needs to send Pullum to prison, such as public protection, deterrence from future crime or treatment needs that can only be met behind bars.
    Don't file your income tax return and you will end-up in prison because a message must be sent to the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    Don't file your income tax return and you will end-up in prison because a message must be sent to the public.
    For this only treatment behind bars will correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    Don't file your income tax return and you will end-up in prison because a message must be sent to the public.
    Cite my requirement to file.

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    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    I am sure the judge ordered all his firearms confiscated and barred him from owning firearms in the future for his mental health issues and drug addiction issues. Equal protection under the law, yeah, right. As an (former) agent of the state here is your get out of jail free card. You and me.......not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken56 View Post
    I am sure the judge ordered all his firearms confiscated and barred him from owning firearms in the future for his mental health issues and drug addiction issues. Equal protection under the law, yeah, right. As an (former) agent of the state here is your get out of jail free card. You and me.......not so much.
    If he moves to Virginia the governor will restore his voting rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    Cite my requirement to file.

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    Where did I say anything about a requirement to file? And where did I specifically say you had a requirement to file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    Where did I say anything about a requirement to file?
    --snipped--
    You just did!

    Sorry, my bad. The devil made me do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    Where did I say anything about a requirement to file? And where did I specifically say you had a requirement to file?
    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    Don't file your income tax return and you will end-up in prison because a message must be sent to the public.
    Remember now?

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    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    Remember now?

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    Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem.
    Don't file your income tax return and you will end-up in prison because a message must be sent to the public.
    If there is no requirement then there is no such thing as MY return.

    The way you worded it makes claim that you're required to file. If it had been worded. "Don't file an income tax return...."
    See the difference?
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    If there is no requirement then there is no such thing as MY return.

    The way you worded it makes claim that you're required to file. If it had been worded. "Don't file an income tax return...."
    See the difference?
    That's from your perspective.
    The IRS and the courts say otherwise.And under section 6020 of the code the secretary is to file a return on your behalf if you fail to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    That's from your perspective.
    The IRS and the courts say otherwise.And under section 6020 of the code the secretary is to file a return on your behalf if you fail to do so.
    Only if you have a requirement to file in the first place.

    6020. Returns prepared for or executed by Secretary
    (a) Preparation of return by Secretary

    If any person shall fail to make a return required by this title or by regulations prescribed thereunder, but shall consent to disclose all information necessary for the preparation thereof, then, and in that case, the Secretary may prepare such return, which, being signed by such person, may be received by the Secretary as the return of such person.
    (b) Execution of return by Secretary
    (1) Authority of Secretary to execute return

    If any person fails to make any return required by any internal revenue law or regulation made thereunder at the time prescribed therefor, or makes, willfully or otherwise, a false or fraudulent return, the Secretary shall make such return from his own knowledge and from such information as he can obtain through testimony or otherwise.
    (2) Status of returns

    Any return so made and subscribed by the Secretary shall be prima facie good and sufficient for all legal purposes.

    (Aug. 16, 1954, ch. 736, 68A Stat. 740; Pub. L. 90364, title I, 103(e)(3), June 28, 1968, 82 Stat. 264; Pub. L. 94455, title XIX, 1906(b)(13)(A), Oct. 4, 1976, 90 Stat. 1834; Pub. L. 98369, div. A, title IV, 412(b)(4), July 18, 1984, 98 Stat. 792.)
    You really should look up a lawyer who knows the law. Larry Becraft, would be a good start. He has defended against the IRS and never lost against the IRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    Only if you have a requirement to file in the first place.



    You really should look up a lawyer who knows the law. Larry Becraft, would be a good start. He has defended against the IRS and never lost against the IRS.

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    Sir, Larry is a personal friend of mine. And yes he has lost cases. Dr. Ward F. Dean was defended by Larry. In 2005, Dr. Ward F. Dean, of Pensacola, Florida was found guilty of seven felony counts of evading income taxes and attempting to interfere with the administration of the Internal Revenue Code.

    So, you really don't know what you are talking about. But, you're free to believe whatever you want.

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    Do I Have To File Taxes? - Bankrate.com http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxe...e-taxes-1.aspx
    Who has to file taxes? The IRS doesn't require a tax return from some individuals. Find out what determines if you have to file taxes, and when you should ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Do I Have To File Taxes? - Bankrate.com http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxe...e-taxes-1.aspx
    Who has to file taxes? The IRS doesn't require a tax return from some individuals. Find out what determines if you have to file taxes, and when you should ...
    That is true, but it is based on standard exemptions.

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