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    Wash. Attorney General proposes ban


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    "A ban on semiautomatic weapons with military-style features that render them more easily concealable or more deadly; and
    A limit on magazine capacity currently unlimited under Washington law to a maximum of 10 rounds of ammunition."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    "A ban on semiautomatic weapons with military-style features that render them more easily concealable or more deadly; and
    A limit on magazine capacity currently unlimited under Washington law to a maximum of 10 rounds of ammunition."
    Aaah yes - the more deadly argument.
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    More "concealable"?! So we're talking all semi-auto handguns?
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    I assume that this would not affect my single shot rifle? Of course it wouldn't ... such "bans" are immediately void.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Aaah yes - the more deadly argument.
    Its not the gun folks ..... the high school shooter only used 10 rd mags remember ...

    And shotguns are better in such places in any event. Nice GFZ with only a guy who wants to go home.

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    Atty. General Ferguson: "I don't propose bills that I don't think won't pass." @KIRO7Seattle


    Gotta love the morons use of double negatives here. He's basically saying that he doesn't propose bills he thinks will pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tombrewster421 View Post
    Atty. General Ferguson: "I don't propose bills that I don't think won't pass." @KIRO7Seattle. Gotta love the morons use of double negatives here. He's basically saying that he doesn't propose bills he thinks will pass.
    Gotta love the morons that can't count the negations, here there are three, and three lefts do make a right.
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    Wash. Attorney General proposes ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Gotta love the morons that can't count the negations, here there are three, and three lefts do make a right.
    Two negatives make each other void. One negative remains. Take any two of those out and you'll understand what is being said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Its not the gun folks ..... the high school shooter only used 10 rd mags remember ...

    And shotguns are better in such places in any event. Nice GFZ with only a guy who wants to go home.
    Do you have a citation for the mag size he used? It would certainly be handy in a discussion.
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    Wash. Attorney General proposes ban

    Tapatalk double posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tombrewster421 View Post
    Atty. General Ferguson: "I don't propose bills...".
    (S)He should stop there. It's not the job of the AG to propose anything.

    Can someone officially file an ethics complaint or lawsuit if the AG is using the power/time of office to do that?

    And warning to all, the link in the OP starts an audio file of some sort. I closed the page, and refuse to patronize websites that do that.
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    Good question.
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    Thumbs up

    Wash. Attorney General is another great gun salesmen. Wow looks like a run on AR 15s soon.
    Even if he gets his way, the Washington state market will be saturated with AR 15s very soon.
    I bet he has stock in the fire arms industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    (S)He should stop there. It's not the job of the AG to propose anything.

    Can someone officially file an ethics complaint or lawsuit if the AG is using the power/time of office to do that?

    And warning to all, the link in the OP starts an audio file of some sort. I closed the page, and refuse to patronize websites that do that.
    RCW 43.10.030
    General powers and duties.
    The attorney general shall:
    (1) Appear for and represent the state before the supreme court or the court of appeals in all cases in which the state is interested;
    (2) Institute and prosecute all actions and proceedings for, or for the use of the state, which may be necessary in the execution of the duties of any state officer;
    (3) Defend all actions and proceedings against any state officer or employee acting in his or her official capacity, in any of the courts of this state or the United States;
    (4) Consult with and advise the several prosecuting attorneys in matters relating to the duties of their office, and when the interests of the state require, he or she shall attend the trial of any person accused of a crime, and assist in the prosecution;
    (5) Consult with and advise the governor, members of the legislature, and other state officers, and when requested, give written opinions upon all constitutional or legal questions relating to the duties of such officers;
    (6) Prepare proper drafts of contracts and other instruments relating to subjects in which the state is interested;
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    (11) Pay into the state treasury all moneys received by him or her for the use of the state.
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    BOHICA alert

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    Sen. David Frockt (D-46) and Sen. Kevin Ranker (D-40) are working with Ferguson to craft the legislation.

    If you want a preview of what it will look like then here is your link.

    http://app.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summa...2015&bill=63103

    Take note of the other sponsors to this bill, specifically Jayapal, Pederson and Habib. http://app.leg.wa.gov/Rosters/Members


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    RCW 43.10.030
    General powers and duties.
    The attorney general shall:
    ...(5) Consult with and advise the governor, members of the legislature, and other state officers...
    Thanks. I guess that's broad enough to allow such unconstitutional idiocy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Thanks. I guess that's broad enough to allow such unconstitutional idiocy.
    The practical effect is that the AG is prohibited from answering citizens' questions. It is a common provision, familiar to me from South Carolina and Wisconsin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    The practical effect is that the AG is prohibited from answering citizens' questions. It is a common provision, familiar to me from South Carolina and Wisconsin.
    In most (all?) states. the AG is the chief law enforcement officer and the state's attorney - not for mere commoners.
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    Did I read this right? No more open carry.

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    9 (ii) Exhibits the firearm in a public place

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoneguy View Post
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    9 (ii) Exhibits the firearm in a public place
    You misread it.
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    the question is what do we do about it?

    Many people are so uniformed about firearms they wouldn't realise everything he said today was a lie.

    the fire in a crowded theater aregument is an old strawman that tries to compare misuse of a civil liberty with preventing a civil liberty from being exercised for fear someone MIGHT misuse it.
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    Another problem in this state there a lot of "pro" gun people that think that us lowly citizens should not have ARs & AKs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decklin View Post
    Do you have a citation for the mag size he used? It would certainly be handy in a discussion.
    The Columbine shooter (one of them) used just 1o rd mags, did not expend all rds in them in his shooting ... a google search should present you with more than one source of information to allow you to choose one..if you need to cite a source.

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