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    McAuliffe doesn't want "your kind" in Virginia

    Whether a resident or non-resident, please respond.

    From a Va-Alert:

    We need those of you **who have not yet** commented against the Governor's state-agency gun-ban, to do so on the Virginia Regulatory Town Hall webpage!

    The antis are continuing to submit comments supporting the ban, narrowing our lead (around 2,500 gun owners have comments opposing, but there are 28,000 of you on this email list alone - so we need to rest to step up to the plate).

    EVEN IF THE GOVERNOR GOES AHEAD WITH HIS PERMANENT BAN, VCDL PLANS ON USING THE DISPARITY IN COMMENTS TO HELP PUSH THROUGH A STATE AGENCY PREEMPTION BILL IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. That would solve this issue and others in one-fell-swoop.

    Let's make sure that disparity in comments continues to be huge - please add your comment if you haven't done so yet. Pass this email on to gun-oriented chat groups and to anyone else who should be with us on this issue.


    IT'S FAST AND EASY - ADD YOUR COMMENT TO THE LIST!

    Suggested comment title: "I OPPOSE this regulation!"

    Suggested comment: "I OPPOSE banning lawfully carried firearms in state agency buildings."

    Click here to put in your comment on the Virginia Regulatory Town Hall webpage:

    http://townhall.virginia.gov/L/comme...m?stageid=7579

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    Let's roll, ladies and gentlemen!
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    Grape I got a page error .. no access.

    This me or your link?

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    Worked just fine for me.....

    My Comment----
    I strongly oppose this regulation. "...The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS shall NOT be INFRINGED!" (emphasis added) 2nd amendment of the US Constitution. This proposed regulation does CERTAINLY INFRINGE on my Constitutionally Protected Right to keep and bear arms!
    RIGHTS don't exist without RESPONSIBILITY!
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    If the above makes me a RADICAL or EXTREME--- So be it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Grape I got a page error .. no access.

    This me or your link?
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    Worked just fine for me.....

    My Comment----
    Strange - neither the original link nor alternates will connect now for me.
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Whether a resident or non-resident, please respond.

    From a Va-Alert:

    We need those of you **who have not yet** commented against the Governor's state-agency gun-ban, to do so on the Virginia Regulatory Town Hall webpage!

    The antis are continuing to submit comments supporting the ban, narrowing our lead (around 2,500 gun owners have comments opposing, but there are 28,000 of you on this email list alone - so we need to rest to step up to the plate).

    EVEN IF THE GOVERNOR GOES AHEAD WITH HIS PERMANENT BAN, VCDL PLANS ON USING THE DISPARITY IN COMMENTS TO HELP PUSH THROUGH A STATE AGENCY PREEMPTION BILL IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. That would solve this issue and others in one-fell-swoop.

    Let's make sure that disparity in comments continues to be huge - please add your comment if you haven't done so yet. Pass this email on to gun-oriented chat groups and to anyone else who should be with us on this issue.


    IT'S FAST AND EASY - ADD YOUR COMMENT TO THE LIST!

    Suggested comment title: "I OPPOSE this regulation!"

    Suggested comment: "I OPPOSE banning lawfully carried firearms in state agency buildings."

    Click here to put in your comment on the Virginia Regulatory Town Hall webpage:

    http://townhall.virginia.gov/L/comme...m?stageid=7579

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    Let's roll, ladies and gentlemen!
    I guess I don't get it. You supply a link, but where do I post a comment? Do I have to sign up and supply my personal info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    I guess I don't get it. You supply a link, but where do I post a comment? Do I have to sign up and supply my personal info?
    In posting a comment/reply, you do supply a minimum of personal info.
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    I guess I don't get it. You supply a link, but where do I post a comment? Do I have to sign up and supply my personal info?
    Um... by using the button/hotlink labeled "Enter a comment"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BB62 View Post
    Um... by using the button/hotlink labeled "Enter a comment"?

    Thanks for answering my question.

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    Well the link is working again for me.

    Thanks to all that are posting there. Let's roll!
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Strange - neither the original link nor alternates will connect now for me.
    working now ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Whether a resident or non-resident, please respond....
    I got lucky catching the thread. Maybe move (or second, with a link to here) in the Hot Topics forum?

    Nice to see so many comments. I had to scroll a while before I saw a nondescript subject line from someone claiming to be "responsible." Sure enough, that was an anti- with no real information, just an emotional appeal from a "mother of a murdered daughter." I wonder if her daughter was armed, or if her mother had taught her that was a bad thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I got lucky catching the thread. Maybe move (or second, with a link to here) in the Hot Topics forum?

    Nice to see so many comments. I had to scroll a while before I saw a nondescript subject line from someone claiming to be "responsible." Sure enough, that was an anti- with no real information, just an emotional appeal from a "mother of a murdered daughter." I wonder if her daughter was armed, or if her mother had taught her that was a bad thing?
    Good suggestion - cross posted it, linked to this thread.
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    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I got lucky catching the thread. Maybe move (or second, with a link to here) in the Hot Topics forum?

    Nice to see so many comments. I had to scroll a while before I saw a nondescript subject line from someone claiming to be "responsible." Sure enough, that was an anti- with no real information, just an emotional appeal from a "mother of a murdered daughter." I wonder if her daughter was armed, or if her mother had taught her that was a bad thing?
    I'm totally irresponsible. Does this mean I cannot have guns? LOL

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    From the first post it appears there is some method to count the comments for support or opposition. I see nothing on the comment page for determining that. Care to share where or how to get that info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Va_Nemo View Post
    Done.

    From the first post it appears there is some method to count the comments for support or opposition. I see nothing on the comment page for determining that. Care to share where or how to get that info?

    Nemo
    Thank you for volunteering to make a manual count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    At the moment there are 85 pages of 50 comments per page.
    How many pro vs number anti? Note that some subject lines can be misleading.
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

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    Posted

    Here is my reply to the Open House page:
    State Building Gun Ban


    I OPPOSE this action as being in violation with the state and federal Constitution.
    Section 1. Equality and rights of men

    That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety. Taken from: http://law.lis.virginia.gov/constitu...cle1/section1/

    Life and Liberty do not stop at the entrance to building, and niether does ones safety.

    Amendment II

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Taken from: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html

    Our rights to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

    Thank You for your time,

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    This regulation would be unlawful unless I misunderstand VA law. The executive branch of the state has no authority to deprive or restrict a citizens rights without INDIVIDUAL due process - which this regulation would not allow for. A public "request for comment" is a "mass" action and does not meet the required standard.

    The only place that I can think of that this would be lawful would be any of the "Governor's residence" locations WHILE the Governor or his family were in face "in residence".

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    Quote Originally Posted by drsysadmin View Post
    Done.

    This regulation would be unlawful unless I misunderstand VA law. The executive branch of the state has no authority to deprive or restrict a citizens rights without INDIVIDUAL due process - which this regulation would not allow for. A public "request for comment" is a "mass" action and does not meet the required standard.

    The only place that I can think of that this would be lawful would be any of the "Governor's residence" locations WHILE the Governor or his family were in face "in residence".
    A regulation cannot be unlawful. There is no statute or ordinance making it so.

    In this case, it is a warning that if you violate the directive a nice officer will be called who can charge you with the illegal act of trespass.
    Last edited by Grapeshot; 09-16-2016 at 08:37 AM. Reason: fixed
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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