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    An act of terrorism?

    Published: Saturday, September 17th 2016, 11:55 am EDT
    Updated: Saturday, September 17th 2016, 12:06 pm EDT

    "SEASIDE PARK, NJ (WWBT) - A device exploded in shore side New Jersey community Saturday morning right as approximately 5,000 people were slated to run a 5K Marine charity race."

    "According to NBC affiliate WNBC, the explosive device went off in a garbage can in Seaside Park, New Jersey, about an hour north of Atlantic City. Officials say no one was injured in the blast, but they were investigating another suspicious device in the town."

    http://www.nbc12.com/story/33119256/...ocation-police
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    Is there a pattern here other than our vulnerability?

    ST. CLOUD, Minn. (AP) -- "A man in a private security uniform stabbed eight people at a Minnesota shopping mall, reportedly mentioning Allah and asking at least one victim if they were Muslim before an off-duty police officer shot and killed him, authorities said."

    "The attack began shortly after an explosion in a crowded New York City neighborhood injured 29 people. A suspicious device was found a few blocks away and safely removed. Hours before that, a pipe bomb exploded in Seaside Park, New Jersey, shortly before thousands of runners were due to participate in a charity 5K race. There was no indication that any of the incidents were linked."
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    "NEW YORK (AP) - Police released a photo of a 28-year-old immigrant wanted for questioning Monday in bombings that rocked a Manhattan neighborhood and a New Jersey shore town, and New York's governor and mayor said the blasts are looking increasingly like an act of terrorism with a foreign connection."
    http://www.nbc12.com/story/33125119/naturalized-us-citizen-from-afghanistan-sought-in-nyc-blast

    BREAKING: NYPD: Ahmad Khan Rahami, 28, of Elizabeth, NJ, "is being sought in connection with" the NYC bombing. pic.twitter.com/D34Icpv9KK
    7:29 AM - 19 Sep 2016









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    I see on the web (* Abe Lincoln said that everything on the web is to believed*) that he went to Afghanistan and came back "religious".

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I see on the web (* Abe Lincoln said that everything on the web is to believed*) that he went to Afghanistan and came back "religious".
    I am the richer for that. Thank you sooo much.
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    DOJ & FBI cover up ISIS connection to NY/NJ bombings

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21...-revealed.html

    While we shouldn't be surprised we should be outraged. Comey and Lynch are treasonous criminals and should be imprisoned along with Obama the traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boundlessdyad View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21...-revealed.html

    While we shouldn't be surprised we should be outraged. Comey and Lynch are treasonous criminals and should be imprisoned along with Obama the traitor.
    do you need assistance in getting the fox news media shock and awe fishhook out of your bottom lip...

    what we should be outraged about is fox news even providing such extensive page by blood hell page coverage about the notebook in the first place...thru its release they have caused:
    1. tremendous publicity and world wide acknowledgement to the group's followers, wherever they are hiding, that the group's leaders can still bring this country to our knees.
    2. acknowledging the group's training and clandestine coomunicative sytem is viable and functional.
    3. acknowledgement they need to put in their lesson plans for future 'soldiers' to ensure they create a journal, to be found immediately by authorities, to increase any event's shock and awe publicity.
    4. reenforces this government's desire to create a dhs police climate where JQPublic shudders when any enforcement agent(s) point to a citizen and even mention the word, terrorist, and all our rights go out the window so the lynchings (shootings) can begin...

    that is who our outrage should be directed towards...fox's all mighty goal to $$$$ ~yet again.

    finally, the event is days olde of course the indicments are not even close to being finalized and wont be for months...the government has another show boat & public spectacle trial to put on tv for the citizens of this country, the likes the citizenry has not seen since OJ.

    now go put some antiseptic on the fishhook wound before it gets septic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    do you need assistance in getting the fox news media shock and awe fishhook out of your bottom lip...

    what we should be outraged about is fox news even providing such extensive page by blood hell page coverage about the notebook in the first place...thru its release they have caused:
    1. tremendous publicity and world wide acknowledgement to the group's followers, wherever they are hiding, that the group's leaders can still bring this country to our knees.
    2. acknowledging the group's training and clandestine coomunicative sytem is viable and functional.
    3. acknowledgement they need to put in their lesson plans for future 'soldiers' to ensure they create a journal, to be found immediately by authorities, to increase any event's shock and awe publicity.
    4. reenforces this government's desire to create a dhs police climate where JQPublic shudders when any enforcement agent(s) point to a citizen and even mention the word, terrorist, and all our rights go out the window so the lynchings (shootings) can begin...

    that is who our outrage should be directed towards...fox's all mighty goal to $$$$ ~yet again.

    finally, the event is days olde of course the indicments are not even close to being finalized and wont be for months...the government has another show boat & public spectacle trial to put on tv for the citizens of this country, the likes the citizenry has not seen since OJ.

    now go put some antiseptic on the fishhook wound before it gets septic.

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    But not a word is said by you about the NBC links above? Yeah that makes sense. Get a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boundlessdyad View Post
    But not a word is said by you about the NBC links above? Yeah that makes sense. Get a life.
    i guess you didn't look at the fox cite in relation to the contents of my post...let me reiterate... fox's after the event report was strictly to incite shock and awe in the hearts of JQPublic from the headlines to exposing the contents of the journal followed by showing specific photos of bloody pages (add gore to the shock and awe for the public) and IMO journal's contents shouldn't have been publicized, which is what i stated...

    NBC's is covering the snippets of the whole series of the event...guess i missed bullethole, oh and the blood, in the phone's text snippet shown.

    that you were outraged just was amazing you got hooked by the report, which is what i also stated...

    not my fault the pesky fishhook is still caught, which has made you cranky and all super sensitivity about being criticized for being caught up in the news medium's report of shock and awe without looking at it realistically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    i guess you didn't look at the fox cite in relation to the contents of my post...let me reiterate... fox's after the event report was strictly to incite shock and awe in the hearts of JQPublic from the headlines to exposing the contents of the journal followed by showing specific photos of bloody pages (add gore to the shock and awe for the public) and IMO journal's contents shouldn't have been publicized, which is what i stated...

    NBC's is covering the snippets of the whole series of the event...guess i missed bullethole, oh and the blood, in the phone's text snippet shown.

    that you were outraged just was amazing you got hooked by the report, which is what i also stated...

    not my fault the pesky fishhook is still caught, which has made you cranky and all super sensitivity about being criticized for being caught up in the news medium's report of shock and awe without looking at it realistically.

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    Okay Mr. Expert on everything media related. Obviously you are a mind reader too. You must be very impressed with yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boundlessdyad View Post
    Okay Mr. Expert on everything media related. Obviously you are a mind reader too. You must be very impressed with yourself.
    it is not my fault you lack an apparent grasp of the purpose of shock and awe media reporting...from 2012:

    quote: As some remarkable terrorist attacks in history indicate, whether it is in the United States (US), Europe, or the Middle East, it is by and large the case that the architects of terrorism exploit the media for the benefit of their operational efficiency, information gathering, recruitment, fund raising, and propaganda schemes (Nacos 2006). In the words of Nacos (2002), whether it is the relatively inconsequential arson by an amateurish environmental group or mass destruction by a network of terrorists, the perpetrators’ media-related goals are the same: attention, recognition, and perhaps even a degree of respectability and legitimacy in their various publics (Nacos 2002a).

    Media, in return, receives the attention of the public that is vital for its existence and benefits from record sales and huge audiences. To put it briefly, just as terrorism has to be communicated to have effect (Seib and Janbek 2011), the media has to cover the incidents in such a way to benefit from the public’s eagerness to obtain information about terrorist attacks. It is, therefore, fair to argue that there is a mutually beneficial relationship between terrorism and today’s media. unquote. http://www.e-ir.info/2012/07/22/terr...ous-symbiosis/

    you were saying...

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    added...this was first identified when ted turner started 24/7 cnn...and the need to report shock and awe to provide $$$ to sustain their operation(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    it is not my fault you lack an apparent grasp of the purpose of shock and awe media reporting...from 2012:

    quote: As some remarkable terrorist attacks in history indicate, whether it is in the United States (US), Europe, or the Middle East, it is by and large the case that the architects of terrorism exploit the media for the benefit of their operational efficiency, information gathering, recruitment, fund raising, and propaganda schemes (Nacos 2006). In the words of Nacos (2002), whether it is the relatively inconsequential arson by an amateurish environmental group or mass destruction by a network of terrorists, the perpetrators’ media-related goals are the same: attention, recognition, and perhaps even a degree of respectability and legitimacy in their various publics (Nacos 2002a).

    Media, in return, receives the attention of the public that is vital for its existence and benefits from record sales and huge audiences. To put it briefly, just as terrorism has to be communicated to have effect (Seib and Janbek 2011), the media has to cover the incidents in such a way to benefit from the public’s eagerness to obtain information about terrorist attacks. It is, therefore, fair to argue that there is a mutually beneficial relationship between terrorism and today’s media. unquote. http://www.e-ir.info/2012/07/22/terr...ous-symbiosis/

    you were saying...

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    added...this was first identified when ted turner started 24/7 cnn...and the need to report shock and awe to provide $$$ to sustain their operation(s).
    And it's not my fault that you lack an apparent grasp on the fact that I could care less what you think. Your overwhelming sense of self importance is clearly a cover for some inadequacy issue you suffer from. Perhaps some therapy is in order. Your lengthy posts on every topic on the forum aren't impressive despite what you may believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boundlessdyad View Post
    And it's not my fault that you lack an apparent grasp on the fact that I could care less what you think. Your overwhelming sense of self importance is clearly a cover for some inadequacy issue you suffer from. Perhaps some therapy is in order. Your lengthy posts on every topic on the forum aren't impressive despite what you may believe.
    now you regale to playground taunts...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    now you regale to playground taunts...lol

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    No a playground taunt would be calling you a weirdo, or a pathetic hermit, or a lonely troll. I haven't said anything like that about you. [emoji6]

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    Quote Originally Posted by boundlessdyad View Post
    And it's not my fault that you lack an apparent grasp on the fact that I could care less what you think. Your overwhelming sense of self importance is clearly a cover for some inadequacy issue you suffer from. Perhaps some therapy is in order. Your lengthy posts on every topic on the forum aren't impressive despite what you may believe.
    Clearly a negative reference, a personal attack, and not well received here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Clearly a negative reference, a personal attack, and not well received here.
    And the following of another member from thread to thread with negative comments on each post in an annoying manner like a flea or tick is acceptable and well received? Not by me. The community might flourish if "solus" was at minimum hospitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Ya know, there is an Ignore List.

    I use at a bit differently that it was intended. I use it to remind myself that the members on my list are unpleasant to read, that responding to them will likely accomplish nothing, and to think twice before viewing the post. You might try it.
    Thanks for the tip. I did that just prior to your post. It's too bad that it is even necessary to add an ignore button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    It is a standard vBulletin feature. I don't believe that I have ever seen a vB forum without the iggy list implemented. Other forum software, yeah, WP for instance.
    Yes I am aware of that. I have accounts on numerous forums. I guess I have been lucky in never having to use the feature before. As they say "there is a first time for everything".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
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    Et tu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boundlessdyad View Post
    Thanks for the tip. I did that just prior to your post. It's too bad that it is even necessary to add an ignore button.
    of course, you can use that feature, censorship is a great tool ~ to not hear ppl point out that what you are saying is foolish or incorrect. do you always seek the 'yes' individual in your business dealings too?

    for example, you posted the fox cite, then immediately engaged in a rant, (which BTW had nothing to do with the cite) by name, that these certain ppl are terrorists, including the president ~ all i did was point out the actual problems with fox posting the shock and awe story about the notebook.
    you rebutted by asking what did i know about media relations ~ I responded by posted a cite explaining the symbiotic relationship between news reporting and terrorist activities.

    nowhere did i insult you during this exchange, yet you felt the need to engage in play ground taunts towards me and personal commentary saying i should seek therapy...now pray tell who truly, who really lost any and all credibility in the exchange, certainly not I!

    i mean, really, look at your last post in response to grape...you sound like an emotional school boy whining to the principal..."make him stop, make him stop picking on me!!"

    ya, the ignore list is your easy way out and it is worn as a badge of honor for you isn't it...

    alternatively...you could realize you are on a private forum reviewed by outside citizens, government entities ~ foreign and domestic, and realize wearing your feelings on your shirt sleeves doesn't help and realize commentary back to you isn't personal and rebut the commentary with objective information.

    oh wait, you can't see this...alas tis a shame...but i have faith in human nature...you'll peek.

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    added: another fallacy of ignore...you can't see what ppl are post about you...good or bad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    of course, you can use that feature, censorship is a great tool ~ to not hear ppl point out that what you are saying is foolish or incorrect. do you always seek the 'yes' individual in your business dealings too?

    CAN'T STAND YES PEOPLE IN BUSINESS OR PERSONAL LIFE.

    for example, you posted the fox cite, then immediately engaged in a rant, (which BTW had nothing to do with the cite) by name, that these certain ppl are terrorists, including the president

    WRONG, INACCURATE, LIE OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT. I CALLED THESE INDIVIDUALS INCLUDING OBAMA TREASONOUS TRAITORS. I STAND BEHIND THE STATEMENT. ~ all i did was point out the actual problems with fox posting the shock and awe story about the notebook. YOUR POINT IS UNDERSTOOD HOWEVER THAT DOESN'T MEAN SOME SHOCK AND AWE ISN'T NECESSARY FROM TIME TO TIME AS WE BECOME DESENSITIZED TO THE CRIMINAL ACTIONS OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
    you rebutted by asking what did i know about media relations WRONG, INACCURATE, LIE AGAIN. I SARCASTICALLY CALLED YOU A MEDIA EXPERT. I DIDN'T ASK WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT MEDIA. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. ~ I responded by posted a cite explaining the symbiotic relationship between news reporting and terrorist activities. GREAT, GOOD FOR YOU.

    nowhere did i insult you during this exchange, DEBATABLE BUT WE CAN MOVE ON. yet you felt the need to engage in play ground taunts towards me and personal commentary saying i should seek therapy...now pray tell who truly, who really lost any and all credibility in the exchange, certainly not I! DEPENDS ON PERSPECTIVE. A FEW MEMBERS PM'd ME AFTERWARDS WITH COMMENTS ABOUT YOU THAT WEREN'T VERY KIND. YOU MAY NOT BE AS LOOKED UP TO AROUND HERE AS YOU BELIEVE.

    i mean, really, look at your last post in response to grape...you sound like an emotional school boy whining to the principal..."make him stop, make him stop picking on me!!" AGAIN DEBATABLE, I SIMPLY POINTED OUT YOUR LESS THAN HOSPITABLE BEHAVIOR ON A FORUM THAT HAS SEEN A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN ACTIVE USERS SINCE I JOINED YEARS AGO. I AM NOT SAYING THAT SNARKY "KNOW IT ALL'S" ARE THE REASON BUT ONE NEVER KNOWS.

    ya, the ignore list is your easy way out and it is worn as a badge of honor for you isn't it... YOU ARE NOT ON THE IGNORE LIST. FORTUNATELY I WILL CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE VAST WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE TO SHARE WITH US ALL.

    alternatively...you could realize you are on a private forum reviewed by outside citizens, government entities ~ foreign and domestic, and realize wearing your feelings on your shirt sleeves doesn't help and realize commentary back to you isn't personal and rebut the commentary with objective information. POINT TAKEN [emoji6]

    oh wait, you can't see this...alas tis a shame...but i have faith in human nature...you'll peek. NEVER ACTUALLY BLOCKED YOU. NO NEED TO PEEK.

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    added: another fallacy of ignore...you can't see what ppl are post about you...good or bad!
    [emoji106] POST AWAY, HAVE FUN WITH IT.
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    Wow this thread was forgotten quickly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boundlessdyad View Post
    Wow this thread was forgotten quickly...
    Not forgotten, but driven into the wall by unnecessary I said/you said distraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Not forgotten, but driven into the wall by unnecessary I said/you said distraction.
    OR no one cares about NJ ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    OR no one cares about NJ ...
    Now, now, certainly someone somewhere cares about New Jersey. None of us have likely come across the individual yet. [emoji6]

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