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    OpEd in DesNews about Utah Permit popularity

    The headline is inflammatory and pejorative. But the actual article is written pretty straight up. In the Opinion Section of the Deseret News.

    Fair use excerpt:

    What makes the Beehive State so appealing to the gun-toting masses both home and away?

    The Deseret News caught up with Jason Chapman, the state of Utahís supervisor of concealed firearm permits, at his office at Utah Bureau of Criminal Identification (BCI) headquarters to find out.

    DN: Thank you for your time today, Jason. What is it about Utahís laws that attract so much concealed firearm permit business from outside the state?

    JC: We donít ask (why people apply), but probably one reason is the wide-ranging reciprocities. Thirty-six states recognize Utah (permits), so thatís significant if youíre a person who travels a lot....
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    Quote Originally Posted by utbagpiper View Post
    JC: We donít ask (why people apply), but probably one reason is the wide-ranging reciprocities. Thirty-six states recognize Utah (permits), so thatís significant if youíre a person who travels a lot....
    Slight clarification, thirty-one states recognize a Utah non-resident permit, same as AZ and FL (two other popular nonresident licenses) which I believe is the most recognition you can get with a non-resident license / permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaShooter View Post
    Slight clarification, thirty-one states recognize a Utah non-resident permit, same as AZ and FL (two other popular nonresident licenses) which I believe is the most recognition you can get with a non-resident license / permit.
    Correct. 31 recognize non-resident Utah. 34 recognize Utah permits held by residents.

    The list of which States recognize vary a bit. But the Utah permit is substantially less expensive than is the Florida permit last time I checked. It is also at least modestly less expensive than the Arizona permit due partly to not requiring nearly as many hours of training. Which means the Utah permit is also less of a hassle to get.

    Obviously, with the 2nd amendment in the federal constitution, no permit should be needed anywhere the US flag flies. That should be our goal.

    I am convinced that shall issue permits that have dramatically increased the number of persons able to legally carry for self defense have helped to shift the debate into our favor compared to where we were in the late 60s, early 70s, and even up through the 80s and early 90s.

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