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    2016 Presidential Debate thread

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    Who is going to win? Who won? Best moments, worst moments? Etc...

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    Donaldus Triumphus theme: Make America Great. A la Ronaldus Magnus. Music VIDEO

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    Sigurd, also 'Siegfried', slaying Fafnir. Sigurd-Siegfried is the golden haired hero of Norse legend. Siegfried is of Wagner's heroes in the German Nibelungenlied, and Richard Wagner's operas Siegfried and Götterdämmerung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    https://youtu.be/5ecEb4tEPic

    Sigurd, also 'Siegfried', slaying Fafnir. Sigurd-Siegfried is the golden haired hero of Norse legend. Siegfried is of Wagner's heroes in the German Nibelungenlied, and Richard Wagner's operas Siegfried and Götterdämmerung.

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    Hillery accuses us as being implicitly biased.
    What is implicit bias?

    Implicit bias occurs when someone consciously rejects stereotypes and supports anti-discrimination efforts but also holds negative associations in his/her mind unconsciously. Scientists have learned that we only have conscious access to 5 percent of our brains—much of the work our brain does occurs on the unconscious level. Thus, implicit bias does not mean that people are hiding their racial prejudices. They literally do not know they have them. More than 85 percent of all Americans consider themselves to be unprejudiced. Yet researchers have concluded that the majority of people in the United States hold some degree of implicit racial bias.
    What a crock.

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    Drudge Report 2016 0445

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    TRUMP 80.81% (247,928 votes)
    CLINTON 19.19% (58,869 votes)

    Total Votes: 306,797
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    The Washington Times 0455

    Poll: Who won the first presidential debate?
    Hillary Clinton 2447 (24%)
    Donald Trump 7113 (70%)
    Neither 412 (4%)
    Lester Holt 172 (2%)
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    Milady Wife, now facebooking, reports on the number of neighbors that turned the debate off, too disgusted to watch more. Yesterday evening she reported the Hillaryous ones gathering for a communal viewing. I asked that she brag that we slept through it, first watching Indian Summers on AmaXon Prime video while drinking our evening 'beverages' and then nodding off, to bed at 2200.

    Previously I had written on DISQUS that Triumphant TRUMP could rant and rave for an hour, Seig Heil and bang his shoe, and it would make no difference to me and to the #NeverHillary.
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    Greenie Jill Stein impeached by virtue signaling "Doctor"

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    Even Time.com, TRUMP 52%. Clinton 48%

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    CNBC. TRUMP 65%. Clinton 35%. 0.7 Million preferences reported

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    Hillary Clinton was deemed the winner of Monday night's debate by 62% of voters who tuned in to watch, while just 27% said they thought Donald Trump had the better night.

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/27/poll.pdf
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    Breitbart/Gravis “flash poll” conducted minutes after the debate ended.
    48 percent said Clinton did a better job, compared to 43 percent, who said Trump did the better job.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...te-flash-poll/
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    Voters Nationally Say Clinton Won Debate 51/40

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...bate-5140.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    Hillary Clinton was deemed the winner of Monday night's debate by 62% of voters who tuned in to watch, while just 27% said they thought Donald Trump had the better night.

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/27/poll.pdf
    The real disappointment is found in the breakdown of pre-debate alliances.

    26% of the respondents who participated in tonight's survey identified themselves as Republicans,

    41% identified themselves as Democrats,

    and 33% identified themselves as Independents
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    The real disappointment is found in the breakdown of pre-debate alliances.

    26% of the respondents who participated in tonight's survey identified themselves as Republicans,

    41% identified themselves as Democrats,

    and 33% identified themselves as Independents
    Why would anybody be disappointed by breakdown of respondents? Does such a person have a world-view that expects or requires Republicans to become respondents to a certain poll?

    No, really. I sincerely cannot make sense of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    The real disappointment is found in the breakdown of pre-debate alliances.

    26% of the respondents who participated in tonight's survey identified themselves as Republicans,

    41% identified themselves as Democrats,

    and 33% identified themselves as Independents
    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Why would anybody be disappointed by breakdown of respondents? Does such a person have a world-view that expects or requires Republicans to become respondents to a certain poll?

    No, really. I sincerely cannot make sense of this.
    My disappointment (as stated) was in the pre-debate alliances = before they were "respondents."

    The numbers/% shown is not a fair representation/balance of the two main groups. It appears to me that if a portion of the independents are swayed to either side, we get figures predictably like the final poll results.
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    The root problem with all self-served polls/surveys is the self-selection of the respondents. Only activists need apply.

    In surveying for descriptive statistics, there are two broad classes of data acquisition; one, that we are familiar with, is the surveyor pollster does his best to design what he thinks is a fair survey - and is roundly criticized for this and that corruption. The other, convenient data is extracted from an unrelated data set, perhaps as proxy, for the purposes of the surveyor, with the initial acquisition blind to the subsequent use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    The real disappointment is found in the breakdown of pre-debate alliances.

    26% of the respondents who participated in tonight's survey identified themselves as Republicans,

    41% identified themselves as Democrats,

    and 33% identified themselves as Independents
    At least it was a scientific poll showing the random imbalance openly.
    The other polls I saw through out this thread were meaningless online polls where respondents were not accounted for and you could vote multiple times if you wish.
    Meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    At least it was a scientific poll showing the random imbalance openly.
    The other polls I saw through out this thread were meaningless online polls where respondents were not accounted for and you could vote multiple times if you wish.

    Meaningless.
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    Personally, I don't care which one of these 2 clowns (the criminal one or the immature one) "won" the debate! What I want to know is which one supports the US Constitution, limited Federal government as identified within the US Constitution, enforcing the 2nd amendment restrictions on the Governmental infringement by the feds on the "right of the people to keep and bear arms' by eliminating all federal infringment of this right which "shall not be infringed", and returning us to GOD as a country and as individuals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    Personally, I don't care which one of these 2 clowns (the criminal one or the immature one) "won" the debate! What I want to know is which one supports the US Constitution, limited Federal government as identified within the US Constitution, enforcing the 2nd amendment restrictions on the Governmental infringement by the feds on the "right of the people to keep and bear arms' by eliminating all federal infringment of this right which "shall not be infringed", and returning us to GOD as a country and as individuals?
    Neither. We're ******
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