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    USMC may drop 'The Few, The Proud' seeking inclusiveness.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ng-slogan-the/

    I suggested, We don't give Trigger Warnings, we are Trigger Warnings, the USMC!
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    This old soldier's opinion: That is disgusting! The Marines are "The Few, The Proud" and rightfully so. Back when I was an instructor at an Army school, my Marine students were head and shoulders above the other students I had. Wasn't that they were smarter, they just worked harder and paid attention.

    They don't need to be "inclusive". They need to remain just what they are; a highly trained, elite force available for both amphibious and air assault.
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    That's it....now we've finally reached the bottom.
    Pretty soon they'll drop Semper Fi because it sound too "harsh".
    Might scare somebody.
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    The Marines is a branch that can and should be eliminated. They no longer serve the function that they were created to do.

    Congress has examined eliminating this branch time and time again. Its time to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    The Marines is a branch that can and should be eliminated. They no longer serve the function that they were created to do. Congress has examined eliminating this branch time and time again. Its time to do it.
    That we are not practicing conventional warfare at the moment does not remove the USMC ability and capability to execute their traditional functions of assault from sea/air. It would seem, from Congresses examination and decision to not eliminate the USMC, it would seem that the Congress of peoples representatives disagrees with idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    That we are not practicing conventional warfare at the moment does not remove the USMC ability and capability to execute their traditional functions of assault from sea/air. It would seem, from Congresses examination and decision to not eliminate the USMC, it would seem that the Congress of peoples representatives disagrees with idiots.
    Their job was to assault beaches ... they performed this very well in WWII ... the last time we actually did this.

    I guess Nightmare wants to bring back the cavalry too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    The Marines is a branch that can and should be eliminated. They no longer serve the function that they were created to do.

    Congress has examined eliminating this branch time and time again. Its time to do it.
    Yuck fu

    There is no other branch that can do all the things the Marines do, an integrated assault force, having air, land and sea (dedicated naval elements) components able to make a landing and be self supporting (landing with food ammo and other supplies loaded so first off are most needed, embarkation specialist are a part of the force) for ten days.

    Yea I was one but the fighting sprite of the Marines is head and shoulders above the army. When I was in Ramadi Iraq after Odumbo announced the end of combat operation the diaperheads hit our front gate. The Marines were still in control of the base and Marines were quartered in the second story of the building we had our offices in. At the first shots Marines wearing PT gear, boots, IBA, , helmets, web gear/mag pouches carrying their rifles came pouring down the ladder ways headed for the sounds of battle, actually yelling "Gonna get some, HOORAH".

    Three months later the army took over the base and shortly after the ragheads hit the front gate again, the doggies quartered upstairs were standing at the balcony railing smoking cigarettes and watching the bouncing tracers. I asked where their rifles were and if they were going to the fight, one doggie said "If they get this far we're all (forked), we don't have any mags much less any ammo".

    Yea there's a reason the Marines have never been disbanded, there ain't NOTHING that can replace them. Ever notice when an embassy or other US facility has to be evacuated it's ALWAYS the Marines that are sent??? Who rescued the crew of the Mayaguez? The army??

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    Quote Originally Posted by F350 View Post
    Yuck fu

    There is no other branch that can do all the things the Marines do, an integrated assault force, having air, land and sea (dedicated naval elements) components able to make a landing and be self supporting (landing with food ammo and other supplies loaded so first off are most needed, embarkation specialist are a part of the force) for ten days.

    Yea I was one but the fighting sprite of the Marines is head and shoulders above the army. When I was in Ramadi Iraq after Odumbo announced the end of combat operation the diaperheads hit our front gate. The Marines were still in control of the base and Marines were quartered in the second story of the building we had our offices in. At the first shots Marines wearing PT gear, boots, IBA, , helmets, web gear/mag pouches carrying their rifles came pouring down the ladder ways headed for the sounds of battle, actually yelling "Gonna get some, HOORAH".

    Three months later the army took over the base and shortly after the ragheads hit the front gate again, the doggies quartered upstairs were standing at the balcony railing smoking cigarettes and watching the bouncing tracers. I asked where their rifles were and if they were going to the fight, one doggie said "If they get this far we're all (forked), we don't have any mags much less any ammo".

    Yea there's a reason the Marines have never been disbanded, there ain't NOTHING that can replace them. Ever notice when an embassy or other US facility has to be evacuated it's ALWAYS the Marines that are sent??? Who rescued the crew of the Mayaguez? The army??
    Thanks for the funny stories. I feel safer knowing that the USMC exist . Yes, the Marines have done everything; we cannot do without them..just rhetoric. A branch that can easily be eliminated.

    Go Air Force ! This too may become subject to elimination in time. The USMCs time is here now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Their job was to assault beaches ... they performed this very well in WWII ... the last time we actually did this.

    I guess Nightmare wants to bring back the cavalry too.
    An amphibious assault was carried out by U.S. Marines when they landed at the Al-Faw Peninsula on 20 March 2003 during the Iraq War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    An amphibious assault was carried out by U.S. Marines when they landed at the Al-Faw Peninsula on 20 March 2003 during the Iraq War.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lsp9hn8V6U

    Correct ^^^ ... still....not enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by F350 View Post
    snippp...

    Ever notice when an embassy or other US facility has to be evacuated it's ALWAYS the Marines that are sent??? Who rescued the crew of the Mayaguez? The army??
    1. due to established protocals with DoS, the agreements agreed to was the DoD placed the responsibilities of embassy duty to the Marines.

    2. as for the rescue of a ship crew: lets set your perception straight shall we:
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    That night, an AC-130 Spectre gunship (added USAF) circulated over the island, keeping an eye on the situation. Cambodian gunboats travelled (sic) to and from the ship, the island, and the Cambodian mainland. U.S. and Cambodian forces exchanged fire and several gunboats were damaged or destroyed. On 14 May, USAF aircraft continued strafing enemy gunboats and vessels in the area to prevent them from reaching the mainland.

    The operation, hastily planned by Seventh Air Force (7 AF), initially included USAF Security Forces to secure the ship and locate the crew, who were thought to be held on the island. However, one of those helicopters crashed, killing its Air Force crew and all 19 Security Forces personnel aboard. When that happened, planners decided to use U.S. Marines. Although USAF C-141 Starlifters transported the Marines to staging areas in Thailand, USAF helicopters would play the major role in the operation. A total of 14 USAF helicopters, both HH-53 Jolly Green and CH-53 Knife helicopters were used.

    Perhaps most tragic of all was that three hours after the initial assault began, a Thai fishing boat flying a white flag approached the island. On board the boat was the unharmed crew of the Mayaguez. Soon, the crew was safe on board the USS Henry B. Wilson, and the focus of the Koh Tang Island operation suddenly shifted from an assault to evacuating U.S forces from the island. unquote

    there was no rescue by marines of the ship's crew in 1975 as the crew were released by the Cambodians prior to our assault even beginning. like all our rescue attempts...this one also failed and now the effort turned to rescue, quote: There were 131 Marines and 5 Airmen on the island. 82 were on the Western beach, 29 were south of the Western beach, and 25 were trapped near the Eastern beach. Fifteen Americans were dead and eight of the nine helicopters in the first wave had either crashed or were so severely damaged they could not immediately fly again. All told, 15 had been killed, 3 were missing in action, and 50 were wounded. unquote. http://www.afhso.af.mil/topics/facts...t.asp?id=20956

    careful about what you brag about as seems your memory is faulty on which services participated in this failed operation.

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