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    Gabby Giffords in Newtown Supporting Same Background Check Her Attacker Passed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    This morning started out pretty good until I clicked on the link. Was it your intention to upset my day??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    This morning started out pretty good until I clicked on the link. Was it your intention to upset my day??????
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    She did take a bullet to the head...that's gotta do something to your decision making skills.
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    The only way to stop most crime is for the people to be armed. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleged Gunman View Post
    The only way to stop most crime is for the people to be armed. Period.
    Don't think I agree - a gun is not a magic talisman.

    There are many times where the use of force is not appropriate, especially deadly force.

    CC is being armed yet nobody but you will know it......if done well.

    Also, consider that a great number of crimes are perpetrated out of sight of the good people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Don't think I agree - a gun is not a magic talisman.

    There are many times where the use of force is not appropriate, especially deadly force.

    CC is being armed yet nobody but you will know it......if done well.

    Also, consider that a great number of crimes are perpetrated out of sight of the good people.
    If most people were armed, crime would be greatly reduced. Also, I did not state that a gun was a magic talisman, just that the most effective way to reduce crime is for people to be armed. As a victim of a violent armed robbery I can testify to the fact that not having a gun or means to defend myself was the most terrifying time I ever experienced. If I had been armed, at least I wouldn't have got beat down with a chain. The police are usually not around during the commission of a crime, and the people it is being perpetrated on are. Of course in reality not everyone will be armed for many different reasons, but I still think if more people were, more crime would be reduced. Just think how effective a deterrent it is when Joe bad guy reads a media story about a home invader getting shot in the head by a little old lady from Pasadena!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleged Gunman View Post
    If most people were armed, crime would be greatly reduced. Also, I did not state that a gun was a magic talisman, just that the most effective way to reduce crime is for people to be armed. As a victim of a violent armed robbery I can testify to the fact that not having a gun or means to defend myself was the most terrifying time I ever experienced. If I had been armed, at least I wouldn't have got beat down with a chain. The police are usually not around during the commission of a crime, and the people it is being perpetrated on are. Of course in reality not everyone will be armed for many different reasons, but I still think if more people were, more crime would be reduced. Just think how effective a deterrent it is when Joe bad guy reads a media story about a home invader getting shot in the head by a little old lady from Pasadena!
    I know you didn't call it a magic talisman.....I used that reference.

    There is no benefit to CC short of the actual presentation, there is no deterrent w/o drawing.

    OC OTOH is a visual warning and is faster to clear leather.

    I will agree that more guns will equal less crime, but neither one of us can claim that as an original thought.
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