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    OpenCarry here we come!!!!


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    Wouldn't that be nice


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mas49.56 View Post
    Just deserts, long overdue!
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    Joe N E G R O N - New Senate President

    Joe N E G R O N is pro-open carry, so you can be sure there will be an honest vote in the Florida Senate with the next open carry bill.

    However, some of the senators, knowing they will have to vote "yes" to keep up appearances, but at the time time being queasy with real freedom, may water it down with silly amendments banning open carry in certain places.

    So basically, you could wind up with a two-tiered carry system. A list of off-limits places when carrying concealed, and a longer off-limits list when carrying openly.

    I certainly hope this will not be the case, but just letting y'all know what to watch for, and to hold them to their promises to defend your rights without any such shenanigans.

    Basically, open carry should be legal ANYWHERE concealed carry is legal.

    Edit: the stupid editor won't let me put in his last name - it keeps changing it to African American. Arg!
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    Any movement forward is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    Any movement forward is good.
    Spoken like a true Wisconsin progressive. "Forward, willy-nilly and let the devil take the hindermost!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil1979 View Post
    Joe N E G R O N is pro-open carry, so you can be sure there will be an honest vote in the Florida Senate with the next open carry bill.

    However, some of the senators, knowing they will have to vote "yes" to keep up appearances, but at the time time being queasy with real freedom, may water it down with silly amendments banning open carry in certain places.

    So basically, you could wind up with a two-tiered carry system. A list of off-limits places when carrying concealed, and a longer off-limits list when carrying openly.

    I certainly hope this will not be the case, but just letting y'all know what to watch for, and to hold them to their promises to defend your rights without any such shenanigans.

    Basically, open carry should be legal ANYWHERE concealed carry is legal.

    Edit: the stupid editor won't let me put in his last name - it keeps changing it to African American. Arg!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Spoken like a true Wisconsin progressive. "Forward, willy-nilly and let the devil take the hindermost!"
    Spoken like a true all or nothing defeatist.
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    OpenCarry here we come!!!!

    Joe African Americann. My editor does some goofy stuff. It is not PC, just out to get me.

    What are the chances of passage this next session?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockman View Post
    Joe African Americann. My editor does some goofy stuff. It is not PC, just out to get me.

    What are the chances of passage this next session?
    Better chance than the Florida Supreme Court ruling in our favor IMHO. I hope I'm wrong, but I see them ruling based on feelings, not law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockman View Post
    Joe African Americann. My editor does some goofy stuff. It is not PC, just out to get me.

    What are the chances of passage this next session?
    A clean licensed open carry bill? I'd put it at about 40%

    Unfortunately, there are more than a few statist anti gun Republicans in Tallahassee.

    Chances of the Fl SC giving us OC in the Norman case is about 1%
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    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    A clean licensed open carry bill? I'd put it at about 40%

    Unfortunately, there are more than a few statist anti gun Republicans in Tallahassee.

    Chances of the Fl SC giving us OC in the Norman case is about 1%
    Trump's chances of winning Florida were in the same realm, I believe.

    Have faith and keep knocking on their door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Trump's chances of winning Florida were in the same realm, I believe.

    Have faith and keep knocking on their door.
    This session will be the best chance yet.

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    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Trump's chances of winning Florida were in the same realm, I believe.

    Have faith and keep knocking on their door.
    Joseph Goebbels could have beaten shillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Joseph Goebbels could have beaten shillary.

    The people that supported her, would be the same ones that would support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Joseph Goebbels could have beaten shillary.
    You made me shoot my drink out of my nose. That was hillarious


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    With Governor Scott saying he's not accepting a position with President elect Trumps new government, our chances for OC just went up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mas49.56 View Post
    Better chance than the Florida Supreme Court ruling in our favor IMHO. I hope I'm wrong, but I see them ruling based on feelings, not law.
    I'm hoping the court makes some kind of a ruling, the way I see it whatever road the court takes will help to establish "bear arms" in one form or another. The worst outcome is the OC law getting passed and the state deciding to drop charges, thus mooting the case. What a waste that would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by press1280 View Post
    I'm hoping the court makes some kind of a ruling, the way I see it whatever road the court takes will help to establish "bear arms" in one form or another. The worst outcome is the OC law getting passed and the state deciding to drop charges, thus mooting the case. What a waste that would be.
    The next session won't close until May. I feel pretty confident the court will say or imply there is a right to bear arms, but that the privilege of purchasing and waiting for a license satisfies the right to bear arms because it's "reasonable" and that it's just the state regulating the manner of bearing them. Of course, the concealment requirement is definitely being upheld under "manner".

    Fl and Ok's constitutions are very similar, Ok had a similar case and their court said that there is a right but the state can ban the right. Why? Because statism!

    When you understand worldviews, you can predict civil right court cases with ease.

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    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    A clean licensed open carry bill? I'd put it at about 40%

    Unfortunately, there are more than a few statist anti gun Republicans in Tallahassee.

    Chances of the Fl SC giving us OC in the Norman case is about 1%


    Right on all counts there, Zach.

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