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McAwful screws over Senator Stuart and VCDL

Repeater

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Seems our Governor cannot stand liberty (unless it's about illegals).

McAuliffe attempts to revive Virginia’s ‘one-gun-a-month’ law by amending SB 1023
McAuliffe attached the amendment to a Senate bill that prohibits sharing law enforcement information with states that do not recognize Virginia’s concealed weapons permits. That bill, passed by the General Assembly last month and sent to McAuliffe for action, was sponsored by Sen. Richard H. Stuart (R-Spotsylvania), who was not happy with the amendment.

“He’s just making a game out of it,” Stuart said. “It’s disheartening to me that the governor is more concerned about the people in New York City than he is about Virginia citizens who are actually ... playing by the rules.”

The Governor's statement is here.
My amendment will make it a Class 1 misdemeanor for any person other than a licensed firearms dealer to purchase more than one handgun within a 30-day period. The restoration of One-Handgun-a-Month, which is offered as an amendment to Senate Bill 1023, is a major step forward in making Virginia a safer place and ending its role in the proliferation of firearms up and down the East Coast.
 

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Hang on a sec.

Since when could the governor introduce legislation?

I'm not saying he can't. I'm wondering when it happened and why. It blurs the line between the executive and the legislative (or, more likely, puts them in even more cahoots.)
 
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From: http://law.lis.virginia.gov/constitution/article5/section6/

Article V. Executive


Section 6. Presentation of bills; powers of Governor; vetoes and amendments


  • (a) Every bill which passes the Senate and House of Delegates, before it becomes law, shall be presented to the Governor.
  • (b) During a regular or special session, the Governor shall have seven days in which to act on the bill after it is presented to him and to exercise one of the three options set out below. If the Governor does not act on the bill, it shall become law without his signature.
    • (i) The Governor may sign the bill if he approves it, and the bill shall become law.
    • (ii) The Governor may veto the bill if he objects to it by returning the bill with his objections to the house in which the bill originated. The house shall enter the objections in its journal and reconsider the bill. The house may override the veto by a two-thirds vote of the members present, which two-thirds shall include a majority of the members elected to that house. If the house of origin overrides the Governor's veto, it shall send the bill and Governor's objections to the other house where the bill shall be reconsidered. The second house may override the Governor's veto by a two-thirds vote of the members present, which two-thirds shall include a majority of the members elected to that house. If both houses override the Governor's veto, the bill shall become law without his signature. If either house fails to override the Governor's veto, the veto shall stand and the bill shall not become law.
    • (iii) The Governor may recommend one or more specific and severable amendments to a bill by returning it with his recommendation to the house in which it originated. The house shall enter the Governor's recommendation in its journal and reconsider the bill. If both houses agree to the Governor's entire recommendation, the bill, as amended, shall become law. Each house may agree to the Governor's amendments by a majority vote of the members present. If both houses agree to the bill in the form originally sent to the Governor by a two-thirds vote of all members present in each house, which two-thirds shall include a majority of the members elected to that house, the original bill shall become law. If the Governor sends down specific and severable amendments then each house may determine, in accordance with its own procedures, whether to act on the Governor's amendments en bloc or individually, or any combination thereof. If the house of origin agrees to one or more of the Governor's amendments, it shall send the bill and the entire recommendation to the other house. The second house may also agree to one or more of the Governor's amendments. If either house fails to agree to the Governor's entire recommendation or fails to agree to at least one of the Governor's amendments agreed to by the other house, the bill, as originally presented to the Governor, shall be returned to the Governor. If both houses agree to one or more amendments but not to the entire recommendation of the Governor, the bill shall be reenrolled with the Governor's amendments agreed to by both houses and shall be returned to the Governor. If the Governor fails to send down specific and severable amendments as determined by the majority vote of the members present in either house, then the bill shall be before that house, in the form originally sent to the Governor and may be acted upon in accordance with Article IV, Section 11 of this Constitution and returned to the Governor. The Governor shall either sign or veto a bill returned as provided in this subsection or, if there are fewer than seven days remaining in the session, as provided in subsection (c).
  • (c) When there are fewer than seven days remaining in the regular or special session from the date a bill is presented to the Governor and the General Assembly adjourns to a reconvened session, the Governor shall have thirty days from the date of adjournment of the regular or special session in which to act on the bills presented to him and to exercise one of the three options set out below. If the Governor does not act on any bill, it shall become law without his signature.
    • (i) The Governor may sign the bill if he approves it, and the bill shall become law.
    • (ii) The Governor may veto the bill if he objects to it by returning the bill with his objections to the house in which the bill originated. The same procedures for overriding his veto are applicable as stated in subsection (b) for bills vetoed during the session.
    • (iii) The Governor may recommend one or more specific and severable amendments to a bill by returning it with his recommendation to the house in which it originated. The same procedures for considering his recommendation are applicable as stated in subsection (b) (iii) for bills returned with his recommendation. The Governor shall either sign or veto a bill returned to him from a reconvened session. If the Governor vetoes the bill, the veto shall stand and the bill shall not become law. If the Governor does not act on the bill within thirty days after the adjournment of the reconvened session, the bill shall become law without his signature.
  • (d) The Governor shall have the power to veto any particular item or items of an appropriation bill, but the veto shall not affect the item or items to which he does not object. The item or items objected to shall not take effect except in the manner provided in this section for a bill vetoed by the Governor.
  • (e) In all cases set forth above, the names of the members voting for and against the bill, the amendment or amendments to the bill, or the item or items of an appropriation bill shall be entered on the journal of each house.
The amendment ratified November 8, 1994 and effective January 1, 1995 - Rewrote the section to provide that the Governor may offer only one set of amendments to any bill, to require the Governor to take action to veto a bill, to allow the General Assembly to sever the Governor's amendments, acting on them individually or en bloc, and to allow the General Assembly to propose its own amendments if it determines the Governor's amendments are not severable. [The amendment to this section ratified November 4, 1980 and effective January 1, 1981 was superseded by the 1994 amendment.]
 

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It has been said that when a bill reaches the governors desk, it moves from legislative action to executive action. If so it would seem that the governor could amend a bill to require all permit holders to advise local LEOs of their movements and get approval first. This is essentially what he accomplished on state agencies re EO #50.
 

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Hang on a sec.

Since when could the governor introduce legislation?

I'm not saying he can't. I'm wondering when it happened and why. It blurs the line between the executive and the legislative (or, more likely, puts them in even more cahoots.)

Look at what McAwful actually did:

SB 1023 Concealed handgun permits; sharing of information.

He threw away the Stuart bill, as engrossed and enrolled, and created out of thin air his own bill. he then describes it as "An Amendment in the Nature of a Substitute" -- which is not germane.
 

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Thanks, Tritonguy. Now I understand.

As I think about it, there is no possible way McAwful didn't calculate the result of his "amendment"--and didn't line up support for it in advance.

He knew what he was doing, and had the support lined-up before he "offered" the "amendment."

Scumbags. These guys will sell anybody's rights for two votes from whichever numbskull special interest is too dumb to see the bigger picture.
 

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Look at what McAwful actually did:

SB 1023 Concealed handgun permits; sharing of information.

He threw away the Stuart bill, as engrossed and enrolled, and created out of thin air his own bill. he then describes it as "An Amendment in the Nature of a Substitute" -- which is not germane.

Ahhhhh. Now, that is perspicacity on Mark Twain's level.

Thank you. Saved me a bunch of looking it over. Thank you very much, Repeater.
 

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Why hasn't he been impeached or recalled yet? The gov. sounds like his head would whistle in the wind.

Because something very, very big happened on the afternoon of July 3rd, 1863.

A few fellas made it to and over a wall on Cemetery Ridge. And that is as far as they got.

Just sayin'.
 
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