Dan Hawes - MIA

Grapeshot · Aug 8, 2017

Has anyone heard from or seen Dan Hawes lately? -

Dan has been a serious force in our battle to promote and defend our RKBA in Virginia. He is a man of high moral and ethical standards - would be very hard to replace IMHO. Who is in the wings that might step forward when Dan is not able?

I really miss the days of working with Dan, Skidmark, and Peter Nap.

Please offer any and all updates.

JamesCanby · Aug 8, 2017

Grapeshot said:
Has anyone heard from or seen Dan Hawes lately? -

Dan has been a serious force in our battle to promote and defend our RKBA in Virginia. He is a man of high moral and ethical standards - would be very hard to replace IMHO. Who is in the wings that might step forward when Dan is not able?

I really miss the days of working with Dan, Skidmark, and Peter Nap.

Please offer any and all updates.

I've seen him recently posting on Facebook. He seems well enough, feisty as ever. Perhaps he's seeing less relevance to the cause on OCDO, more banal chatter in the Social threads taking up bandwidth.

Grapeshot · Aug 8, 2017

Glad to know he is still upright.

We used to see him at our OC dinners frequently, but he traveled more then.

Grapeshot · Aug 8, 2017

JamesCanby said:
I've seen him recently posting on Facebook. He seems well enough, feisty as ever. Perhaps he's seeing less relevance to the cause on OCDO, more banal chatter in the Social threads taking up bandwidth.

Dan seeing less relevance to the cause on OCDO? I sincerely doubt that anyone (even John) has a stronger belief in the right to OC and being prepared to defend ourselves.

JamesCanby · Aug 8, 2017

Grapeshot said:
Dan seeing less relevance to the cause on OCDO? I sincerely doubt that anyone (even John) has a stronger belief in the right to OC and being prepared to defend ourselves.

Less relevance (specifically) on OCDO, not in the world at large. So much bandwidth is being spent (wasted) on the non-OC issues that it's beginning to be very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, especially considering the recent advent of those Social-istas (i.e., those who continually post non-OC-oriented threads in that forum and who post inane comments in just about every other thread, whether relevant or not.

I, too, miss the on-topic comments by Peter and Skid ... and there are seemingly few to take their place.

countryclubjoe · Aug 8, 2017

JamesCanby said:
Less relevance (specifically) on OCDO, not in the world at large. So much bandwidth is being spent (wasted) on the non-OC issues that it's beginning to be very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, especially considering the recent advent of those Social-istas (i.e., those who continually post non-OC-oriented threads in that forum and who post inane comments in just about every other thread, whether relevant or not.

I, too, miss the on-topic comments by Peter and Skid ... and there are seemingly few to take their place.

" Those that reside in a glass house should not throw rocks". My .02

CCJ

Grapeshot · Aug 9, 2017

Would someone please let Dan know that he has a PM on OCDO - I don't do Facebook. Could call him, but would prefer to not.

JamesCanby · Aug 9, 2017

Grapeshot said:
Would someone please let Dan know that he has a PM on OCDO - I don't do Facebook. Could call him, but would prefer to not.

I'll take care of that task momentarily.

JamesCanby · Aug 9, 2017

JamesCanby said:
Less relevance (specifically) on OCDO, not in the world at large. So much bandwidth is being spent (wasted) on the non-OC issues that it's beginning to be very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, especially considering the recent advent of those Social-istas (i.e., those who continually post non-OC-oriented threads in that forum and who post inane comments in just about every other thread, whether relevant or not.

I, too, miss the on-topic comments by Peter and Skid ... and there are seemingly few to take their place.

countryclubjoe said:
" Those that reside in a glass house should not throw rocks". My .02

CCJ

CCJ, thank you for providing a perfect example of my current concern over the use of OCDO for non-RTK&BA issues...

jmelvin · Aug 9, 2017

I've seen him regularly on Facebook as well, where he is regularly active. His disappearance from OCDO is not a surprise to me given some recent posts. There is a lot of idle chatter here as well that has little to do with advancing the cause, so that could be its own deterrence.

Grapeshot · Aug 9, 2017

jmelvin said:
I've seen him regularly on Facebook as well, where he is regularly active. His disappearance from OCDO is not a surprise to me given some recent posts. There is a lot of idle chatter here as well that has little to do with advancing the cause, so that could be its own deterrence.

I think that Dan is enjoying his retirement - one revolution at a time.

jmelvin · Aug 9, 2017

Grapeshot said:
I think that Dan is enjoying his retirement - one revolution at a time.

I didn't realize that he'd retired. I suppose I need to update my list as far as attorneys to call if I need one to represent me!

utbagpiper · Aug 9, 2017

I wonder how many different, long-time contributing and respected members of the forum have to express concerns--via either word or action--about the current content of OCDO before the powers-that-be will at least consider there may be some truth in those concerns. When time of Facebook is preferred to discussions on OCDO....

WalkingWolf · Aug 9, 2017

Lawyers are busy, productive ones work from sun up, to sunset. Then go home, and work some more. OCDO has become off topic, has been for some time. It might tend to put posting priorities on the bottom of the wood pile.

Grapeshot · Aug 9, 2017

jmelvin said:
I didn't realize that he'd retired. I suppose I need to update my list as far as attorneys to call if I need one to represent me!

My remark was tongue in cheek. Dan is still my go to attorney and a super guy.

jmelvin · Aug 9, 2017

Thanks for the clarification!

countryclubjoe · Aug 9, 2017

We all agree on issues concerning the right to keep an bear arms and open carry in general. However, the social lounge produces many different titles and issues and subjects for discussion that we may or may not always agree thereon and yes sometimes there exist some uncivil disagreements. In the state forums and the law library where more serious discussions are expounded, I see mostly civil discourse and a great exchange of useful information that is informing to all of us.

Please be advised the same folks that may bicker and at times name call in the lounge are very respectful and civil in what I call the more serious threads to each other ( state threads/law library) If your issue is with the Social lounge and you are thin-skinned, simply disengage there-from.

We need not cut off our nose, in an effort to spite our face.. In my humble opinion the Social Lounge is the bread and butter of OCDO..

My .02
Regards
CCJ

user · Aug 10, 2017

I thank you all for the kind words. I have not yet followed Peter Nap and Skidmark beyond the transition.

scouser · Aug 10, 2017

user said:
I thank you all for the kind words. I have not yet followed Peter Nap and Skidmark beyond the transition.

Although i knew that to be the case it's still nice to have it confirmed

countryclubjoe · Aug 11, 2017

JamesCanby said:
CCJ, thank you for providing a perfect example of my current concern over the use of OCDO for non-RTK&BA issues...

Between General Discussion and Social Lounge over 210 thousand post... Can you say, bread and butter of OCDO..

My .02
CCJ

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