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    It seems that any group of people can petition the Virginia DMV to get personalized plates as long as it is a reputable group and the numbers are there. Has anyone that is a member of VCDL ever thought of getting together a petition and design for a personalized vehicle tag. It would be pretty cool.

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    I certainly would join in on that. A little pistol icon on the plate would be nice. That would go along well with my VCDL and NRA stickers.

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    As big a fan as I am of the VCDL (I am also a long time member), I don't like to advertise (that sounds silly on an Open Carry forum doesn't it?). One of my co-workers used to plaster pro-gun stickers all over his truck, until someone read his advertising and burglarized his vehicle several years back. He lost two pistols and about 100 rds of ammo.

    I used to have NRA vanity plates on my truck myself, but I have since opted for the Scenic Patriot plate with the same characters. Now there is nothing on any of my vehicles that even hints at "possible gun onboard" except the rifle racks in my truck during hunting season.

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    I have to second Got Sig, I don't think it pays to advertise on ones car. One its thief bait, two someone might falsely accuse you of brandishing, and three bumperstickers and plates never changed anyones mind. When was the last time you looked up what you saw on the back of someones car? That said, I will now show my hypocrisy by saying I might be tempted to get a VCDL plate if they ever have them made. It would go well with my Philip Van Cleave for Governor bumper sticker.

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    I don't see it as thief bait, what criminals even know what the hell VCDL is?


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    Got Sig? wrote:
    As big a fan as I am of the VCDL (I am also a long time member), I don't like to advertise (that sounds silly on an Open Carry forum doesn't it?). One of my co-workers used to plaster pro-gun stickers all over his truck, until someone read his advertising and burglarized his vehicle several years back. He lost two pistols and about 100 rds of ammo.

    I used to have NRA vanity plates on my truck myself, but I have since opted for the Scenic Patriot plate with the same characters. Now there is nothing on any of my vehicles that even hints at "possible gun onboard" except the rifle racks in my truck during hunting season.
    This is a topic that comes up at VCDL meetings about once a year

    Usually, the reasons against it are those you have voiced. Also, I believe you have to have 300 pre-paid orders into the state before they will do it.

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    VAopencarry wrote:
    I don't see it as thief bait, what criminals even know what the hell VCDL is?

    While I agree that the stupider criminals might not know what the VCDL is, some of the more savvy ones might. One of the suggestions was a little pistol icon on the plate. That would be a dead giveaway.


    Another thing, and though we don't hear much about it around here, some police officers still don't think that the "average Joe" has any need to carry a weapon. Advertising one could make you a target for some low level police harassment. I am a former California Highway Patrolman (circa late 1970's) and I can tell you that even then there were quite a few cops that loved nothing more than making folks squirm.


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    You are right that few if any criminal know what VCDL is. I should clarify I was talking about the more obvious stickers out there, like "This car protected by Smith and Wesson" or "Driver only carries $20 of ammunition"

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    longwatch wrote:
    You are right that few if any criminal know what VCDL is. I should clarify I was talking about the more obvious stickers out there, like "This car protected by Smith and Wesson" or "Driver only carries $20 of ammunition"
    I LOVE the second one. Mainly because I traded the S&W for a Glock last year .

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    Looks cool to me.
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    longwatch wrote:

    Looks cool to me.
    That is sweet. What about this site?
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    That $ ammo one is funny.....There are times when it is prudent to be discreet about your preference for the 2d Amendment.... For me, if I change my actions based on what I think they might do or think(criminal, LEO,etc) then I am letting them win!!
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    I really do have to question the "why advertise" school of thought.

    Carrying openly is pretty obvious.

    I figure it's better for criminals to know I'm armed than to think I'm an easy target.

    So, my NRA license plate, my "It is your duty as an American to own a gun and know how to use it" bumper sticker, and my holster are a part of my life.
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    My concern with advertising isn't that someone would know I have a gun. It's that they will come looking for one when I am not around.

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    longwatch wrote:
    My concern with advertising isn't that someone would know I have a gun. It's that they will come looking for one when I am not around.
    My concern exactly.

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    It has been looked into and I cannot find the numbers, but basically you have to promise to sell x number of plates or the sponsoring organizations have to make up the difference.



    I think I will stick with the VCDL MM (minute man) in the window.....

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    Well, someone at VCDL got the ball rolling. If you want a VCDL license plate you can commit to getting one by clicking here: http://www2.vcdl.org/webapps/vcdl/platesignup.html

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    Got Sig? wrote:
    longwatch wrote:
    My concern with advertising isn't that someone would know I have a gun. It's that they will come looking for one when I am not around.
    My concern exactly.
    I think I am going to have to agree with longwatch and GotSig?. I don't like to advertise. That's why I got rid of my NRA plates.

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    One of my cars has a bumpersticker that says "If you love your freedom you own a gun." I gave it some thought before putting it on the car because it clearly implies I at least own a gun, if not carry it. The first thing I noticed after putting it onis that there seemed to be alot fewer people tailgating me. Haha!

    I was a little aprehensive that gun-unfriendly police might take notice of it (particularly when I drive to decidely gun-unfriendly locales, e.g. Chicago. But I've driven around Chicago a number of times and never had a problem. (Yes, I took my gun with me.) I've been stopped three times for speeding since I've had that sticker on. Never got a ticket. Only one LEO asked if I was armed, but that was because he saw my Florida permit when I was taking out my DL. I was going 83 in a 65 zone and he told me to have a nice day! (In Minnesota)

    I do pay attention to make sure no cars are following me home to see where I live, but that's just good sense and an old habit anyway.

    I do see in my rearview mirror when stopped that people behind me are often reading it, and in this left-wing town, I feel it's a good education for them.

    I've only had two "incidents" during the years it's been on my car. Shortly after putting it on I was stopped at a red light and I was watching the car behind me, which had 4-5 high school age boys in it. The front passenger side one, tried to slide out the door and law crawl up behind my car, obviously with the intent of swiping my bumper sticker. The others were giggling, and I just kept one eye on the little **** though my side view mirror, until he was about to reach for the bumpersticker. I honked my horn and put the car in reverse. He jumped up and scrambled back to the car like a cat who had just fallen into the bathtub. His friend laughed their butts off. I turned around and shook my finger at them and scolded them "no no no!" (I thought afterward that if I had really wanted to mess with them I would have jumped out and held the kid at gunpoint and claimed he was clearly intent on carjacking me since he would have no legitimate explanation for trying to low crawl up to my car like that.)

    The second incident was a note left on my car while grocery shopping, which I still have up in my office. It reads "You are an idiot. Oh please don't shoot."

    Hahaha.... time will tell who is the idiot.




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    I like you post except for this part:

    "(I thought afterward that if I had really wanted to mess with them I would have jumped out and held the kid at gunpoint and claimed he was clearly intent on carjacking me since he would have no legitimate explanation for trying to low crawl up to my car like that.)"

    My pistol comes out of my holster for 4 things.

    1. Self Defence

    2. Practice

    3. Cleaning

    4. Lock up in the safe

    And only once I took it out at workwith another experienced armorer for an "I'll show you mine if you show me yours".He had a nice Sig.

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    VAopencarry wrote:
    That $ ammo one is funny.....There are times when it is prudent to be discreet about your preference for the 2d Amendment.... For me, if I change my actions based on what I think they might do or think(criminal, LEO,etc) then I am letting them win!!
    Actually, if you put a pro-RKBA sticker on your car, it implies that you feel a need to send people a message that your rights will be defended, thus implying that someone is threatening those rights. Ergo, putting a pro-RKBA sticker on your car is an action based on what antis think.

    If there were no threats to RKBA, there would be no opencarry.org, no VCDL, no NRA beyond a simple marksman training club, and no pro-RKBA stickers on any cars. Just a little logical puzzle to ponder...

    I'm with the "don't advertise" folks. Not only do I not want people to break into my vehicle, but I don't want it vandalized or singled out on the highway by a cop. In fact, I don't want it to stand out much at all, just as a matter of personal privacy. So there are NO stickers or decals of any kind.

    OC'ing is something I do only when I am present to make sure nothing gets stolen, and of course I can go CC when conditions merit. And while OC'ing is asking for attention, I don't wear a license plate on my ass to ID me to everyone who cares to look...

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    I am actually rethinking the don't advertise bit. I have the small round VCDL decal on my car, and a PVC for Governor sticker on my car and I haven't had any problems. From looking at the proposed plates, I'm thinking they are subtle enough not to tip off anyone too much. At least until they go look up what VCDL is. I'm also thinking that it's a very small risk because I've never heard of any crimes or other problems really atributtable to NRA or gun stickers. I'm not saying it's never happened but perhaps its akin to other myths (such as those leveled against open carry) that are really not true or highly overblown. Finally I think we collectively need to step up a notch our spreading the word about the RKBA, and thats why I will be getting VCDL plates when they are available.

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    cs9c1 wrote:
    I like you post except for this part:

    "(I thought afterward that if I had really wanted to mess with them I would have jumped out and held the kid at gunpoint and claimed he was clearly intent on carjacking me since he would have no legitimate explanation for trying to low crawl up to my car like that.)"
    As was pointed out, it was a "thought" not a practice. I think of many things that I do not actually do. Bungee jumping comes to mind.
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    Shotgun wrote:
    cs9c1 wrote:
    I like you post except for this part:

    "(I thought afterward that if I had really wanted to mess with them I would have jumped out and held the kid at gunpoint and claimed he was clearly intent on carjacking me since he would have no legitimate explanation for trying to low crawl up to my car like that.)"
    As was pointed out, it was a "thought" not a practice. I think of many things that I do not actually do. Bungee jumping comes to mind.
    Whats wrong with bungee jumping? Or Australian style of rappelling?

    I didn't intend to say you would actually do it, I was just presenting my thoughts on the statement. God knows I would have been executed years ago had I done the things I would have liked to do to some people.
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    LOL, nothing wrong with bungee jumping-- just not topping of my list on ways to get a kick. No problem with rappelling either! It has practical applications.

    I've experienced enough adrenaline dumps into the system in my 50+ years that I have little need or urge to artificially induce a few more.

    Nietzsche (probably never thought you'd see his name pop up in a gun forum except for the often quoted "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger") thought that the need forever-increasingly powerful stimulants was a sign of decadence. This concludes today's philosophy lesson.

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