Thors_Mitersaw
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whats up with some vests specifically labeled as stab vests? Arent all armors stab resistant?
whats up with some vests specifically labeled as stab vests? Arent all armors stab resistant?
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Body Armor
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jimwyant wrote:
The only thing I will add to what Jim said is that ANY exposure to moisture will (to some degree) reduce the effectiveness of the ballistic fiber. If the officer had to work a wreck in a downpour, etc, that was moisture exposure.
I would suggest buying the vest new if you can afford it.
jimwyant wrote:
The only thing I will add to what Jim said is that ANY exposure to moisture will (to some degree) reduce the effectiveness of the ballistic fiber. If the officer had to work a wreck in a downpour, etc, that was moisture exposure.
I would suggest buying the vest new if you can afford it.
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thorsmitersaw wrote:
NO!!!! The fibers of a standard ballistic vest are laid out to stop (disipate) the relatively blunt ballistic energy of a bullet
[font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Regular ballistic vests offer good slash knife protection, but are not "knife-proof". Stab-Resistant vests offer a much higher level of protection from stabbing attacks.
Even then, [/font][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]certification is done in two different categories of threat; standard knives which are called "Edged Blade", and ice-pick or improvised "Spike" weapons. So stab vests are rated in two categories, "Edged Blade" and "Spike" and can be rated for either or both categories.
[/font][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]In addition to cost, stab resistance does add a LOT of weight and stiffness to a vest!
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thorsmitersaw wrote:
NO!!!! The fibers of a standard ballistic vest are laid out to stop (disipate) the relatively blunt ballistic energy of a bullet
[font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Regular ballistic vests offer good slash knife protection, but are not "knife-proof". Stab-Resistant vests offer a much higher level of protection from stabbing attacks.
Even then, [/font][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]certification is done in two different categories of threat; standard knives which are called "Edged Blade", and ice-pick or improvised "Spike" weapons. So stab vests are rated in two categories, "Edged Blade" and "Spike" and can be rated for either or both categories.
[/font][font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]In addition to cost, stab resistance does add a LOT of weight and stiffness to a vest!
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Thors_Mitersaw
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jpierce wrote:
Well I doubt I would purchase one anyway considering that most vests I see labeled in such a way are lower level armor protection... it seems.
Stabbing is a major threat in this are though. I have had friends who have ben stabbed on the metro and am often afraid of being a target of ms13 or soemthing... who seem to do alot of tht :cuss:
jpierce wrote:
Well I doubt I would purchase one anyway considering that most vests I see labeled in such a way are lower level armor protection... it seems.
Stabbing is a major threat in this are though. I have had friends who have ben stabbed on the metro and am often afraid of being a target of ms13 or soemthing... who seem to do alot of tht :cuss:
Wooley
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Jim, keep in mind that most PD wear III or IIIA. Anything less might not be able to stop certain rounds. I don't have the info right on hand, so I'm speaking from memory. Just something for you to look into.
Jim, keep in mind that most PD wear III or IIIA. Anything less might not be able to stop certain rounds. I don't have the info right on hand, so I'm speaking from memory. Just something for you to look into.
Wooley
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cs9c1 wrote:
We don't wear helmets unless we wanted (and I didn't want) and we had the negatively bouyant, multi-hit rated plates over soft armor.
Oh, and we made $400 plus a day. Must have been why I didn't reenlist.
cs9c1 wrote:
Unless I end up in Law Enforcement when I retire, I got enough of body armor in Iraq that my shoulder and back will ever want:?. If the situation called for it I am sure I would. I cant imagine that the civilian armor weighs any thing like ACH, and IBA with SAPPI plates.
We don't wear helmets unless we wanted (and I didn't want) and we had the negatively bouyant, multi-hit rated plates over soft armor.
Oh, and we made $400 plus a day. Must have been why I didn't reenlist.