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apjonas wrote:
This is incorrect if you mean to expand the statement nationwide. It varies by state but driving (sitting in a car) is not the only time. While some states require only stating your name, others require production of ID. Whether or not these statutes would survive a court challenge is an interesting question but I would not wish to go through the process. At a minimum check what your state requires (if anything) and make your own decision. With regard to OC, if there is a minimum age requirement and you have an appearance that makes it a close call, a request to produce proof of age might be upheld. In Virginia may anyone OC in a restaurant (alcohol restriction) or only those with CC permits?

Desertdoc wrote:
A ID is only required by law when driving. While OCing you need not to have an ID. Thus you can refuse to show or provide one to anyone including a police officer. When CC it is required to have your permit and a photo ID on your person at all times.
This is in the VIRGINIA section!!!! Why would assume desertdoc is stating 'nationwide' law and tell him he is wrong.
 

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gdvan01 wrote:
There are some localities/municipalities (in VA but I can't recall which ones at the moment) that have "failure to I.D." laws on the books.
Please cite the appropriate laws to verify this statement.
 

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VAopencarry wrote:
gdvan01 wrote:
There are some localities/municipalities (in VA but I can't recall which ones at the moment) that have "failure to I.D." laws on the books.
Please cite the appropriate laws to verify this statement.
ID carry requirements are unconstitutional. Kolender v. Lawson. I have never even heard of a VA locality having any such ordiance on the books.
 

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apjonas wrote:
While some states require only stating your name, others require production of ID.
Huh? What state statutes? Under what conditions? Generally, a state requirement to have ID is unconstitutional. Kolender v. Lawsen.

At worst, a state might have a statute requiring a person to state their name in a Terry stop (only). Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Circuit of Nevada.

Accordingly, Penalty Flag on the play.
 
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