10 Reasons too vote Republican

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“The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.”
P. J. O'Rourke

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That used to be the case, Republicans were for small government. However, now they are for big government. Their mantra is "We don't like big government, but it's OK, it's our big government" Regardless, it's big government. In addtion, let's look at the removal of civil lliberties:

1) The Orwellian "Patriot Act" (even has Newspeak!)
2) Wiretaps without a warrant
3) Writ of Habeas Corpus is OPTIONAL!

There are others, but never in US history have civil liberties been removed so rapidly and in such a methodical fashion. The Neo-Cons are fascists.

Democrats don't run on FEAR!

Let me reiterate - 2831 dead U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

Democrats wouldn't have even been there!

WMD? What WMD?

We've been manipulated, scared and misled. The Republican Party wants power!

“The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake ... We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end.” - George Orwell's 1984

Jackie Treehorn

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The Donkey wrote:

1) Jim Webb will be pro-environment. Pro-environment - With what? This is a weak statement. Nothing you or I or Jim Webb can do will change the fact that the earth has temperature fluctuations. Junk science aside, we're experiencing one. And I live near DC - you can't tell me the Democrats don't drive their hummers too.

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2) Jim Webb will help keep the government out of our bedrooms. Webb does not believe that the government should be snooping around in our private lives, unless there's some powerful, overriding reason why it simply HAS to do so. Ain't it amazin' how often government finds reasons it "HAS" to do something? Webb is consistent on this philosophy, which is why he can simultaneously be for 2nd Amenmdment gun rights, against the Marshall-Newman "marriage" amendment, and for a woman's right to reproductive choice (Webb believes that abortions should be "safe, legal and rare" -- why on the gods' planet would he care whether they're rare - they're WOMEN'S choices, not his. I don't want to live my life by Jim Webb's - or anyone else's - value judgements.).

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3) Jim Webb will fight for the American worker in an age of economic globalization, outsourcing, and a widening income inequality that Webb calls the "Three Americas." Webb is pro-labor (scary) and against providing tax breaks to big corporations Webb will fight to restore fairness and progressivity in our economy, including raising the minimum wage. So, people who don't acquire the skills needed to EARN more will just be given more? This, to me, is not fighting for the American worker.

4) As a war hero himself (Navy Cross, Silver Star), and as a man with "skin in the game" (his son Jimmy is a U.S. Marine in Iraq), ... War HERO? A la Kerry?

5) Jim Webb supports stem cell vital research to cure terrible diseases. Webb specifically supports embryonic stem cell research, which scientists and medical researchers believe holds the most promise in combatting Juvenile Diabates, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, paralysis, and many other conditions. Webb does not support human cloning, but he DOES support Federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Okay.

6) Jim Webb will work to restore Congress' role in our Constitutional system of checks and balances. As a U.S. Senator, Webb will be an independent voice (I doubt it - he'll be a Democrat. He already has the ass-kissing endorsements. Actions speak much louder than words) and a counterweight to Presidents of EITHER party who exceed their authority and act without adequately involving Congress. In general, Webb will fight for Congress' role as a co-equal branch of government, which it is supposed to be but which it has NOT been the past six years. DUH - it HAS. It just doesn't act the way Democrats want it to. It is an ELECTED body - elected by the American people.


7) Jim Webb will root out corruption, waste, fraud and abuse wherever he finds it. And he will look for it tirelessly. Along these lines, Webb - a man who personally cannot be bought - has proposed forming a modern-day "Truman Commission" to investigate how contracts were awarded to companies like Halliburton in Iraq. In addition, Webb will work to rein in the out-of-control influence of money in politics, including the power of lobbyists like Jack Abramoff and special interests like Big Oil. This is all part of Webb's philosophy that his job in Washington DC will be to work for the people and those WITHOUT a voice in the corridors of power, not the powerful and well-connected. (Except the ones who get him elected) Will he also make public ALL the no-competition contracts that were awarded during his tenure as SecNAV?


8) Jim Webb will work across the aisle with his friend Chuck Hagel, with people like John McCain and Russ Feingold, to restore an era of bipartisan civility and cooperation for the good of our country. Webb will do this as a strong, principled, and independent Democrat, something we sorely need in Washington DC these days - YEP. FRANKLY, we don't have a ONE!.

9) Jim Webb will fight to recapture the American dream for every man woman and child in the nation. This means working for equal opportunity for all, combined with equal responsibliity. This does NOT mean special rights, but it DOES mean a top-notch education for every child in America, plus quality health care that can't be taken away. It also means fighting to ensure that our children and grandchdldren do not begin their lives saddled with a huge debt (a "birth tax") that they are forced to work their entire lives paying off. Last but not least, it means Affirmative Action for African Americans, as a unique program for a unique group that suffered the terrible "badge of slavery" in this nation's history. Who's going to pay for this? NOT every person is capable of, for example, college. Who defines "top-notch"? And EVERY CHILD IN AMERICA? How about every AMERICAN child in America? Sounds to me like he wants to take my money and give it to someone else.

10) Jim Webb will restore sanity and realism to our foreign policy, as opposed to the strange, starry-eyed theories of the "neo-conservatives" and others (like George W. Bush and George Allen). I'd love, just once, to read a treatise PRO-Webb that doesn't resort to attacks. And no, I don't like Bush. But I don't have to tear someone else down to make my points. As someone who opposed the invasion of Iraq beginning in 2002, based on his belief that such an invasion and occupation of an Arab/Muslim country would turn into a strategic quagmire and a disaster, Webb has proven that he "gets it" on foreign policy and national security. As our next U.S. Senator, Webb will work to reorient our foreign and national security policies to ones that defend American interests while simultaneously restoring our position as a moral leader of the world. Regarding the latter point, Webb understands that it's not just "hard power" that makes a nation strong, but at least as much it's "soft power" - our economy, our diplomacy, our attractiveness as a Democarcy, our willingness to sit down and negotiate even with our enemies - that helps keep us safe and secure in a dangerous world.


All in all, it's time for a positive change in America, and Jim Webb will bring that change. Vote Jim Webb on November 7!

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I do hate nasty politics. But I cannot remain quiet while others voice their thoughts when the facts do stand on their own.

1984? I wonder how many have actually read this book. I have, and the conditions depicted by George Orwell are extreme in nature - i.e. Winston skirting along his apartment to write in a journal or the secret relationship between him and Julia. Personal rights violations? In 1798, the Federal Government passed the Alien and Sedition Acts, with the impending threat of war with France. World War I? The Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918 empowered the authorities to incarcerate many pacifists, socialists, and opponents of the war. Let us review World War II - the use of interment camps to detain 110,000 Japanese Americans, of which 2/3s were Americans. The conditions of today do not compare. UNLESS, there are some of you that believe terrorists really are good people, and 9/11 was just a misunderstanding. Show me where you have to be careful who you meet, where you meet, and what you do in your own living quarters, and then you can come to me on the assertion that 2006 is really 1984.

Iraq? Another political smear point. Democrats would not be in there? That's right (save Joel Liebermann). Majority of Democrats would invite Saddam and Osama over to dine in the White House, and agree to give them a couple of our states as a peace offering. I had a good friend of mine shot and killed in Mosul, Iraq, back in January. He believed in this fight. He believed in helping the Iraqis obtain freedom. I have another two friends in Iraq and another one on his way. They believe in it. So dont tarnish 2,800 dead Americans' memories by screaming we shouldnt be there. Because they are THERE, the terrorists are not over HERE.

And arent you glad that the French didnt feel the same way when they decided to come over and help us fight to get our freedom from England? The French were busy fighting the English in Europe, and certainly could have used all the manpower they could muster over there.

Democrats dont run on FEAR? Clinton's passionate speech on a police officer being killed by cop killer bullets? Hmmm? Democrats use fear, then force - i.e. Elian Gonzalez being forcefully removed with a rife stuck on his face so he could be a communist, a friend of the democrat party.

And to quote Richard Gephardt, a Democrat - "We're in a new world where we have to rebalance freedom and security. ... We're not going to have the openness and freedom we have had."

Vote for a Democrat? I'm here to say I support George Allen.
I rest my case.

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Oh sure, 1984 is so far off. I have just finished reading it again, for about the 10th time, so your implication that I have not read it is erroneous. It's not so far off as you want others to believe. The difference betweent the atrocities that you mention in the past and now is that then it was still illegal, now they make it LEGAL. No writ of Habeas Corpus? Listening to your phone conversations without a warrant? How about keeping a database of the books you check out (Patriot Act). If that's not Orwellian, what is? One of the major points is that in 1984 the government is constantly at war, always at war with the "enemy". The signature of the Neo-cons is WAR. Iraq and Afghanistan. Republicans want you to think "We are at war with Iraq. We have always been at war with Iraq". We know that this is not the case, the Neo-cons in the 80's supported Saddam's regime.

Republicans know that the best way to get power is to have an enemy and be at war. Regan had the Russians, Bush I had Saddam, and Bush II has the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Nothing allows for the erosion of civil liberties like having an enemy. "We have to keep you safe". Are we really safer? I'd say that the 2836 soldiers (+5 from the last post) who are dead are decidely less safe. If you think the occupation ("we'll be greeted as liberators") doesn't incourage anti-American sentiment and terrorists, I think it would be prudent to reconsider that.

Badmouth Dems all you want, but Allen is a Neo-con in every sense. Webb is a better choice.

Here are some great quotes from the leadership on Iraq:

"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." --Vice President Dick Cheney, on the Iraq insurgency, June 20, 2005 (is that a joke?)

"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." –Vice President Dick Cheney, "Meet the Press," March 16, 2003

"F**k Saddam, we're taking him out." –President Bush to three U.S. Senators in March 2002, a full year before the Iraq invasion

"Ladies and gentlemen, these are not assertions. These are facts, corroborated by many sources, some of them sources of the intelligence services of other countries." –Secretary of State Colin Powell, testifying about Iraq's chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons capabilities before the United Nations Security Council, Feb. 5, 2003

"We found the weapons of mass destruction." –President Bush, in an interview with Polish television, May 29, 2003

"Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." —President Bush, discussing the Iraq war with Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson, after Robertson told him he should prepare the American people for casualties

My personal favorite:

"It is not knowable if force will be used, but if it is to be used, it is not knowable how long that conflict would last. It could last, you know, six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." 2/7/03

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Sorry, I don't have spell check on my browser it's "encourage" not incourage. There may be others.

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jackie treehorn, i like your style! but no one here still seems to see the bigger picture. democrat, republican, independent, it doesn't matter! they are all subservant to the PRIVATELY owned Federal Reserve System. the FED sets the rules period!!

These quotes are ACTUAL and HISTORICALLY documented! Here, my friends lie our problems!! Period!!!!!! So we can cry democrat this or republican that; it doesn't matter! Here, my friends, lie our problems.

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If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. -Thomas Jefferson






History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance. -James Madison






If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations. -Andrew Jackson






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Nice post!

While this perspective is a new one to me, it makes loads of sense. However, the FED is not directly responsible for civil liberties, or the war in Iraq. We could, of course, argue that the economy is the root of the war and not be too far off, but nonetheless, it is still the Neo-cons who have ambitiously eroded our civil rights, particularly in the realm of privacy.

Jackie Treehorn

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thanks for the repsonse jackie! but do me one favor and RESEARCH at your own lesiure and you will see that the FED IS in fact responsible for civil liberty infringements AND MOST certainly the war in Iraq. Let me give you a hint. The FED is owned by private individuals, via corporations, regional banks, etc. The people who own these entities have names, addresses, phone numbers etc.These individuals ALL have one thing in common and it's staring right in our face. trust me, it's right in our face!





Jersey Ron

Mayer Rothschild - "Let me control a country's currency and I care not who makes it's laws"

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1) Jim Webb will be pro-environment. Webb will support renewable energy development, and will oppose drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Jim Webb understands that global warming is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with. Webb also knows that we must wean ourselves off our addiction to foreign oil, for both environmental and national security reasons.
We must wean ourselves off foreign oil but he won't drill in ANWR? Which one is it Webb? Oil or 12 moose. You can't have them both. Oil companies are extremely good at keeping damage to mininum.


2) Jim Webb will help keep the government out of our bedrooms. Webb does not believe that the government should be snooping around in our private lives, unless there's some powerful, overriding reason why it simply HAS to do so. Webb is consistent on this philosophy, which is why he can simultaneously be for 2nd Amenmdment gun rights, against the Marshall-Newman "marriage" amendment, and for a woman's right to reproductive choice (Webb believes that abortions should be "safe, legal and rare"). In sum, Webb believes in personal privacy and is against unnecessary government intrusion in our lives. There is no voting record to back up said claims. However, in fairness to Webb, this is not a plus or negative comment.


3) Jim Webb will fight for the American worker in an age of economic globalization, outsourcing, and a widening income inequality that Webb calls the "Three Americas." Webb is pro-labor and against providing tax breaks to big corporations (ExxonMobil, etc.) and mega-rich people (the top 1% or less of America) that don't need them. Webb will fight to restore fairness and progressivity in our economy, including raising the minimum wage. Raising the mininum wage will do nothing but increasing prices causing such wage increase to be worthless. Besides, as it's documented, minimum wage earners generally get pay increases as they learn skills. Economics requires that certain people will make less then others. However, if Congress would cut your wage and get off federal healthcare system and buy your own, I would be supportive of minimum wage (since that's about all you in congress deserve)


4) As a war hero himself (Navy Cross, Silver Star), and as a man with "skin in the game" (his son Jimmy is a U.S. Marine in Iraq), Jim Webb will fight harder than anyone in Congress for our soldiers and our veterans. Webb will push to provide our soldiers in harms way with adequate equipment, including top-notch body armor. Webb will propose a 5% tax break for veterans who have served honorably. Webb will fight for a GI Bill for today's veterans that will grant these veterans the same benefits as those from World War II, including full tuition benefits, the purchase of textbooks, and a monthly living stipend. In agreement


5) Jim Webb supports stem cell vital research to cure terrible diseases. Webb specifically supports embryonic stem cell research, which scientists and medical researchers believe holds the most promise in combatting Juvenile Diabates, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, paralysis, and many other conditions. Webb does not support human cloning, but he DOES support Federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Agree


6) Jim Webb will work to restore Congress' role in our Constitutional system of checks and balances. As a U.S. Senator, Webb will be an independent voice and a counterweight to Presidents of EITHER party who exceed their authority and act without adequately involving Congress. In general, Webb will fight for Congress' role as a co-equal branch of government, which it is supposed to be but which it has NOT been the past six years. We cannot judge if Democrats will not hold you to the screws since you have yet to hold elected office. Considering the amount of money Democrats are dumping into your campaign, it down right scares me.


7) Jim Webb will root out corruption, waste, fraud and abuse wherever he finds it. And he will look for it tirelessly. Along these lines, Webb - a man who personally cannot be bought - has proposed forming a modern-day "Truman Commission" to investigate how contracts were awarded to companies like Halliburton in Iraq. In addition, Webb will work to rein in the out-of-control influence of money in politics, including the power of lobbyists like Jack Abramoff and special interests like Big Oil. This is all part of Webb's philosophy that his job in Washington DC will be to work for the people and those WITHOUT a voice in the corridors of power, not the powerful and well-connected. Standard political speak. Want to prove it? Cut your wage first.


8) Jim Webb will work across the aisle with his friend Chuck Hagel, with people like John McCain and Russ Feingold, to restore an era of bipartisan civility and cooperation for the good of our country. Webb will do this as a strong, principled, and independent Democrat, something we sorely need in Washington DC these days. In all this, Jim's model will be people like Mark Warner, who believes in working with anyone who can help move us "forward, together." Standard political speak. Time to sing kumbya


9) Jim Webb will fight to recapture the American dream for every man woman and child in the nation. This means working for equal opportunity for all, combined with equal responsibliity. This does NOT mean special rights, but it DOES mean a top-notch education for every child in America, plus quality health care that can't be taken away. It also means fighting to ensure that our children and grandchdldren do not begin their lives saddled with a huge debt (a "birth tax") that they are forced to work their entire lives paying off. Last but not least, it means Affirmative Action for African Americans, as a unique program for a unique group that suffered the terrible "badge of slavery" in this nation's history. Talk to France or England how their national healthcare system is working out. Affirmative action? How long does "Affirmative action" have to last before we have decided that we have given all African Americans their chance and some simply won't take that chance? Nothing burns me more then deciding one class of Americans are not as good as me and need help resulting in possibly other Americans missing out on their chance.


10) Jim Webb will restore sanity and realism to our foreign policy, as opposed to the strange, starry-eyed theories of the "neo-conservatives" and others (like George W. Bush and George Allen). As someone who opposed the invasion of Iraq beginning in 2002, based on his belief that such an invasion and occupation of an Arab/Muslim country would turn into a strategic quagmire and a disaster, Webb has proven that he "gets it" on foreign policy and national security. As our next U.S. Senator, Webb will work to reorient our foreign and national security policies to ones that defend American interests while simultaneously restoring our position as a moral leader of the world. Regarding the latter point, Webb understands that it's not just "hard power" that makes a nation strong, but at least as much it's "soft power" - our economy, our diplomacy, our attractiveness as a Democarcy, our willingness to sit down and negotiate even with our enemies - that helps keep us safe and secure in a dangerous world. What is Webb plan for getting out of Iraq? Detailed plan, not sound bites about UN or diplomacy or any such political bullshit. Much of this forum won't subscribe to it and the fact that many people aren't tearing you apart on these 10 points is either I'm wrong and extremeist or this forum is completely dissatisfied with Webb policy. I for one refuse to vote for him due his policies on Health Care and possible raising my taxes. His 2A policies are pretty much on the money (minus the whole gunshow "loophole" BS)