SixBravo
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I had heard about this incident numerous times through the past year or so on gun forums. I saw it mentioned a few times in one of the 21-page posts. I have GOT to comment on this:
I worked at that Starbucks as the shift lead the next morning. You cannot imagine how many phone calls I got about the incident. Quite a few angry gents called-in asking if I could verify the story about the previous nights incident and if I was fully aware of the Commonwealth's laws on firearms... I answered in the negative the first time and was educated. haha
Let me say that I worked at just about every store in the area in the 3 years I was a shift lead there. At this time, my home store was actually the "Marketplace" store in Vienna (the one Taylor Behl worked at). I have been extremely friendly with the Vienna PD (those motorcycle guys are friends for life)for quite some time so I was fairly well versed about the gun laws, but not completely up to date with them.
Well fastforwards backward to the following morning. I immediately asked someone who had worked the night before if something had happened. They proceeded to recount the entire incident - what struck me was how it had happened that the cops had gotten called if the two guys in question had been OC'ing.
The following is what was told to me by an employee who had actually worked during the incident:
As it turns out, when the two guys walked in, they were wearing long coats. No one saw their guns. It wasn't until they sat down and took off their jackets, that the guns were openly displayed. At that point, one of the patrons became very nervous about it and told the shift on duty that they needed to call the police about these two kids with guns. When the cops show up in record time (supposedly there were between 5 and 8 responding units) they detained the kids. Their coats were a huge part of the reason they were being detained, but they mainteined that their coats had been pulled back so that one could see the firearms on their hips.
Starbucks has a strict "do anything the customer tells you" policy. I can see an employee getting berated by one of those customers for refusing. Trust me, of all the stores I worked at, THAT ONE had the customers who were more rude to us than any other place - by far. That store had/has a turn-over rate of nearly 400% every year because of it. And if someone demanded that an employee call the police, it would happen.
At the risk of causing a massive backlash against me, I'm not sure Starbucks should be attacked for what happened. Their have a serious policy against fighting criminals or carrying weapons, but the company is not anti-2nd Amendment by any means. I hope nobody has held ill towards the company because of the incident. Hell, I used to give OC'ers discounts. haha As well, I'm sure that VCDL invesitaged this to its death so some of my facts may be wrong - between the 2nd hand info and how long ago it happened. I do rememebr the feeling these these kids seemed like they were begging to get busted for something.
I had heard about this incident numerous times through the past year or so on gun forums. I saw it mentioned a few times in one of the 21-page posts. I have GOT to comment on this:
I worked at that Starbucks as the shift lead the next morning. You cannot imagine how many phone calls I got about the incident. Quite a few angry gents called-in asking if I could verify the story about the previous nights incident and if I was fully aware of the Commonwealth's laws on firearms... I answered in the negative the first time and was educated. haha
Let me say that I worked at just about every store in the area in the 3 years I was a shift lead there. At this time, my home store was actually the "Marketplace" store in Vienna (the one Taylor Behl worked at). I have been extremely friendly with the Vienna PD (those motorcycle guys are friends for life)for quite some time so I was fairly well versed about the gun laws, but not completely up to date with them.
Well fastforwards backward to the following morning. I immediately asked someone who had worked the night before if something had happened. They proceeded to recount the entire incident - what struck me was how it had happened that the cops had gotten called if the two guys in question had been OC'ing.
The following is what was told to me by an employee who had actually worked during the incident:
As it turns out, when the two guys walked in, they were wearing long coats. No one saw their guns. It wasn't until they sat down and took off their jackets, that the guns were openly displayed. At that point, one of the patrons became very nervous about it and told the shift on duty that they needed to call the police about these two kids with guns. When the cops show up in record time (supposedly there were between 5 and 8 responding units) they detained the kids. Their coats were a huge part of the reason they were being detained, but they mainteined that their coats had been pulled back so that one could see the firearms on their hips.
Starbucks has a strict "do anything the customer tells you" policy. I can see an employee getting berated by one of those customers for refusing. Trust me, of all the stores I worked at, THAT ONE had the customers who were more rude to us than any other place - by far. That store had/has a turn-over rate of nearly 400% every year because of it. And if someone demanded that an employee call the police, it would happen.
At the risk of causing a massive backlash against me, I'm not sure Starbucks should be attacked for what happened. Their have a serious policy against fighting criminals or carrying weapons, but the company is not anti-2nd Amendment by any means. I hope nobody has held ill towards the company because of the incident. Hell, I used to give OC'ers discounts. haha As well, I'm sure that VCDL invesitaged this to its death so some of my facts may be wrong - between the 2nd hand info and how long ago it happened. I do rememebr the feeling these these kids seemed like they were begging to get busted for something.
