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    I had to take my dad to the hospital today since he could barely talk or walk. It was very nerve wrecking for me to see my dad in his condition and I welcome all prayers and thoughts.



    I was OCing and went inside to get a wheel chair for my pops (didn't see any signs), no one said anything. After I got my dad in the chair and came back in, a security guard asked if I had a permit, I said no. He then said I couldn't have the gun in the hospital if I didn't have a permit. I told him that I didn't need one to open carry. He said yes you do and that since I wasn't a LEO, I needed to leave. I asked him to speak to his supervisor. He radioed in for the supervisorand while I walked outside, 2 guards come outa nowhere and asked if I had a permit for the gun. I said I didn't need one (I shoulda had a shirt that said "I don't need a friggin' permit"). That security guard ALSO said I needed one to have a gun.

    Moments later, the supervisor (Steven Johnson) came out and asked if I had a permit (again?). Before I could even answer it seemed like6 security guards circled me in front of the emergency entrance door. I told him I didn't need one to carry open. He then asked "sir, why do you have a gun?". I replied "cause I can't carry a cop" (sorry I had to borrow someone's response but it fit the moment ). He asked me what did I mean by that, I explained that cops show up AFTER a incident has taken place,my firearm is therewith me before, during, and after. He then said, "well you still can't have a gun without a permit!". I said "ok". He got mad with this face > :Xand proceeded to tell another guard to call the HPD. He said, "don't move". Of course I could have left, but I needed to be with my dad, so I just said "ok". He then lectured me about how it's a felony to carry a gun without a permit and he knows this cause he's the head of security and such. I just replied with a simple "ok". He continued on how it's forbidden to carry weapons inside a hospital anywhere in the state of VA. I told him "well, I didn't see any signs" and he gave me the face > :X, but then I said "but I understand you are just doing your job" which put him at ease. I overheard a guard behind mewhisper "he even has it loaded, thats totally illegal" (well no , it's like having a car with no gas). About 5 mins later, a HPO came out the hospital and joined the circle. The supervisor gave the HPOa faceof words which said "look, he's got a gun and no permit, arrest him". Funny thing was, the HPO just stood there with a face of "you got to be kidding me" and asked "is that a Taurus?" My reply was "yup, and what are you packing?". "S & W" he said as he looked over at my firearm. Another guard then noticing nothing was happening, then asked "so, you don't need a permit to carry a weapon?". The HPO "nope, since he has the firearm in plain sight, it's perfectly ok".

    :what:< ---------- was EVERYONES face

    After fixing his face, the supervisor said that I couldn't have it in the building and I put it in the car and went back inside. That was about 10am this morning.



    Time now is 9pm and the status of my dad is stable, however he needs to stay at the hospital for observation. Again everyone, your thoughts and prayers are MOST appreciated!!!!



    BTW - didnt someone have a pic of themselves and their son in the maternity ward??? (JPierce???)

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    Danbus,
    My prayers go to you and your dad, and really I hope everything turns out all right. He's fortunate to have a son who takes such good care of him.


    Your OC story was quite interesting, and you're really some dude for dealing with the situation as smoothly as you did when under such stress. I'm not sure I could have kept my cool so well under the same circumstances. Your self-assurance is all the more impressive considering you're new at all this. Keep up the good work!

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    Glad to hear your Dad is stable and good job on standing your ground especially under the circumstances.

    Thoughts and prayers are with you.

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    Glad to hear your dad is doing good, I'll keep im in my prayers.A friend at work was visiting at the old Hampton general hospital and was carring a 6''357. While in the room of a friend a security guard approached him and informed him it was against policy and escorted him to his car to leave it there while visiting. It was winter and about 30 degrees outside, my friend went back up to the room and looked out the window to see the guard standing at his car in just a suit.When he went down later the guard was still there, he told my friend he was watching his car to make sure no one broke in his car and took his gun.

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    Danbus, we have GOT to get you a BMWAG! t-shirt.:what:

    By the way, it's obvious that you don't know your place and are out to cause trouble - keep up the good work.

    You know, BMWAG would make a very cool personalized license plate.

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    Dan I hope your father gets well soon. As for standing up for your rights you did an excellent job. I feel bad in a way because it seems you are getting a lot of heat for carrying and it really seems to be because of your skin color. I've OC'd for a couple years now and never had any incidents like you've had in a less than a month. It just shows that society needs to grow up and the only cure is to keep doing what we are doing. Anyhow you don't seem discouraged by the BS, so keep up the good work. I hope I can shake your hand someday.

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    Sorry to hear about your dad. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help out.



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    I would like to start out with "All of our hearts are with you and your family".

    Everyone here has commented on the fact that your a black man with a gun. I would have to disagree with everyone here. I think you get **** for looking like your 12. All kidding aside i would contact the hospital admin. and see what their policy really is. I would explain to them that you where harassed by a member of their staff that went as far as calling the police. This is not only a slap in the face to the guard that "knew the law" ,but it is also a waste of tax payers money.

    Is this a privet hospital or one that is funded by the city/state? It might be something that may help you out?

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    Maybe it's because he's young looking, and at least one of the guys in the Starbucks incident were under 21 so it's definitely possible. I haven't met Danbus so maybe he does look really young, I know he says so. However, I haven't seen in his accounts where someone asked for his ID to prove age so between youth and race I'm speculating race was the bigger factor. Either way it was the combination with being armed that triggered the response and both are wrong and education and more OC is the cure.

    As for the private/public issue, the only hospital that I can find in Hampton is the Sentara Hampton General Hospital. If thats the right place Sentara seems to be a private outfit that runs health care facilities in the tidewater region. I'm guessing it's private property or privately run and makes it hard to make a preemption claim there. Mike knows more about the public accomidation legal aspects maybe he has an opinion.

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    Danbus - you and your family are in our prayers.

    I had the pleasure of meeting Danbus at dinner the other night. He does look young but I'm told I do to (I'm 29 and regurlarly get carded for Skoal and lottery tickets). In six months ofopen carrying in Newport News, I've yet to encounter any problems. Who knows what it is.....he dresses very well and definitely doesn't exhibit any image of hostility or malice that I could pick up on. All I can say is hes doing a GREAT job under pressure!!! Keep up the good work.

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    danbus wrote:
    I had to take my dad to the hospital today
    What hospital?

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    Thanks so much from everyone!! It's been hard on my brother and me, but thanks to everyones' words of encouragement and prayers, we shall get through.



    I went to Sentera Hospital in Hampton.

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    I hate double posts!





    What makes a hospital private vs non private? How would I be able to tell the difference?

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    If they were funded by local, state, or any other forum of Gov. I would say they dont have the right to claim private property. Their firearm rule would then just become a suggestion.

    I may be totally wrong, just my 2 cents.

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    Hi, Danbus. I'll be thinking of you and your family and saying a prayer or two, also. Great story about Sentara. Good use of the icons, too. I did LMAO at the end - "is that a Taurus?" was priceless. Take care and keep us (the "family") posted.

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    Danbus -- My prayers go out to you and your family.



    God Bless



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    Danbus, your father and your entire family are in our thoughts.

    And you have earned my profound respect. Your actions have been well presented and proper at all times. Kudos.

    Second the suggestion you ask for a copy of the hospital's written policy. And note the date on it.

    Our best to you.
    Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population. -Albert Einstein

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    WOW! What a story! I wish I could have seen that!

    My prayers go out to you and your family...hope all is well!

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    Sorry to hear about your father, hope he makes a quick and full recovery!

    As for the incident...



    DANBUS FOR PRESIDENT!



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    My dad is well and was home for X-Mas!!



    Thanks so much for everyones' support!





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    Glad to hear your father is doing well and I second exceltoexcel's post danbus for president, I think he'd do a much better job than what we are going to end up with.

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    danbus wrote:
    My dad is well and was home for X-Mas!!



    Thanks so much for everyones' support!



    Danbus,

    I'm sure many of us have had a parent in the hospital, so I know having him home must have been the best Christmas present of all! Happy New Year, and my best wishes to your father!

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