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    Dru just called to tell me they are already talking about this legislation. Here is the first article on it. http://www.semissourian.com/story/1186139.html We need everybody to start emailing your congressman and senators. We have got to get this bill out of committee.

    The preemption bill has been law since 1985, now is the time to correct this statue.




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    Well here is her first response:

    Ms. Keller,

    I just got done reading your article “Bill would end
    bans on carrying guns openly”. The state passed the
    preemption statue in 1985 and gave counties and cities
    the ability to regulate “weapons readily capable of
    lethal use”. The city of Cape Girardeau and others
    throughout the state have taken away the rights of
    citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves.

    Carl Kinnison took the same oath of office I did. We
    are to protect and defend the constitution of this
    state. Here is what the Missouri Supreme Court had to
    say about article 1 section 23 of the Missouri
    Constitution. In State v. Wilforth, the court stated:
    We do not desire to be understood as maintaining
    that in regulating the manner of bearing arms the
    authority of the legislature has no other limit than
    its own discretion. A statute which, under the
    pretense of regulating, amounts to a destruction of
    the right, or which requires arms to be so borne as to
    render them wholly useless for purposes of defense,
    would be clearly unconstitutional.

    Then again in State v. White, the court stated: The
    evident purpose of section 17, art. 2, is to render
    the citizen secure in his home, his person, and his
    property. Its purpose is to deny to the Legislature
    the power to take away the right of the citizen to
    resist aggression, force, and wrong at the hands of
    another. By no possible construction can that section
    of the Constitution be held to guarantee to the
    citizen the right to keep and bear arms for the
    purpose of his own aggression, wrong, or assault upon
    the person or property of another. The right of the
    citizen to keep and bear arms for his own protection
    or in aid of the civil power, when thereto legally
    summoned, is the only right guaranteed to the citizen.

    Senator Jason Crowell should be commended for putting
    forth this much needed piece of legislation. Somebody
    open carrying in the City of Jackson, should not
    become a criminal because they crossed the city limits
    of Cape Girardeau.

    I look forward to your next informed article on the
    rights our citizens enjoy here in Missouri.

    Shawn Cassidy

    You can send your letters here:

    rkeller@semissourian.com


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    Personally I would have no problem with the passage of the open carry law, and honestly think it is a good Idea, and recognize fully that there would be restrictions on it as with everything else, maybe it would be an option that if a person wanted to carry openly they would have to pass the same conditions as Concealed Carry but with the option of open carry, that would put a damper on those that would say that there would be no control on the people that decide to carry openly, even though if a person is 21 years of age they can carry a concealed weapon it the passenger compartment of their auto with no restrictions or training and that does worry me a bit, open or concealed carry just don't bother me one way or the other.

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    Hearings are being held on this bill, the Castle Doctrine bill, and the bill to repeal the Permit to Aquire a Concealable Handgun in the Senate Lounge as I type this, 1900hr on 2/12/07. Hopefully all three will pass quickly from committee and be enacted on the floor of the Senate.



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    THanks for the Information.

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    A friend of mine (Shawn Cassidy) was at the Senate hearing last night and testified in favor of the Castle Doctrine, Firearms Preemption, and revocation of the PTA. He said it was a great meeting and the committee was very responsive to those testifying.

    Had I not been to Jefferson City twice in the last two weeks, I would have been there myself (I live in Cape Girardeau and it is a four hour drive to JC).

    I am especially interested in SB 217 allowing full state firearms preemption. This is a pet project of Shawn and myself. We contacted Senator Crowell (R-Cape Girardeau) several months ago about introducing legislation and provided him with hours of research justifying the need for this very important bill. Hopefully all the firearms related bills will move forward out of committee to be debated on the Senate floor.

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    When will it go to the senate floor to be debated on.

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    Team,

    The SB 217 bill only had two or three people spoke to support it, although they could have been representing groups. The NRA left the room when it came up and they told one senator that they supported the NICS check. I told the committee that ANY prior restraint on a constitutional right...is unconstitutional. Senator Crowell (R-Cape Girardeau), stated he was willing to work with the committee on wording having to do with the discharge of firearms..I advised the panel to bring the law in compliance with Chapter 563 RSMo.

    This was a very good night for us...plus I got to meet some great individuals, such as, Kevin Jamison, Tom Oliver and Sheila Stokes-Begley (WMSA Pres.) All really nice and pleasant to talk with.

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    Sorry, should have said Tim.

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    Any word?

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    To the Honorable Representative Tilley:

    Representative Tilley,

    I would like to request for you to sponsor a companion
    house bill to Senate Bill 217, sponsored by Senator
    Jason Crowell of District 27. This bill seeks to
    completely occupy the entire field of firearm
    regulation in the state. It is important for citizens
    to have one source to look up firearm regulations.
    They shouldn’t have to worry about a patch work of
    local laws governing firearms. As a Reserve Deputy
    Sheriff, in ****************, I can assure you this bill
    will not stop cities or counties from enforcing or
    passing laws in conformance with state law.

    Please let me know if you are able to sponsor this
    legislation. I will include a copy of the bill for
    you to view. I look forward to your response and want
    to thank you for your time.

    Sincerely,

    Shawn

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    To the Honorable Representative Jetton:

    Representative Jetton,

    I would like to request for you to sponsor a companion
    house bill to Senate Bill 217, sponsored by Senator
    Jason Crowell of District 27. This bill seeks to
    completely occupy the entire field of firearm
    regulation in the state. It is important for citizens
    to have one source to look up firearm regulations.
    They shouldn’t have to worry about a patch work of
    local laws governing firearms. This bill will not
    stop cities or counties from enforcing or passing laws
    in conformance with state law.

    Please let me know if you are able to sponsor this
    legislation. I will include a copy of the bill for
    you to review. I look forward to your response and
    want to thank you for your time.

    Sincerely,

    Shawn

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    Folks,

    Please use my two emails as a template to send to your State Rep's. We need to get this bill entered in the house ASAP.

    Shawn

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    hello all, just found this forum, thanks for a great resource.

    Shawn, I used your email template and put a letter in the mail today.

    I will try to stay informed on this, but please continue to keep us posted on what needs to be done.





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    Shawn wrote:
    To the Honorable Representative Tilley:

    Representative Tilley,

    I would like to request for you to sponsor a companion
    house bill to Senate Bill 217, sponsored by Senator
    Jason Crowell of District 27. This bill seeks to
    completely occupy the entire field of firearm
    regulation in the state. It is important for citizens
    to have one source to look up firearm regulations.
    They shouldn’t have to worry about a patch work of
    local laws governing firearms. As a Reserve Deputy
    Sheriff, in ****************, I can assure you this bill
    will not stop cities or counties from enforcing or
    passing laws in conformance with state law.

    Please let me know if you are able to sponsor this
    legislation. I will include a copy of the bill for
    you to view. I look forward to your response and want
    to thank you for your time.

    Sincerely,

    Shawn
    Thank you for the email.

    I have checked in to this piece of legislation. I plan on having a
    companion House Bill drafted and filed within the next week.

    Sincerely,

    Representative Steven Tilley
    Missouri House of Representatives
    State Capitol
    201 West Capitol Ave.
    Jefferson City, MO 65101
    (573)751-1488


    Folks, Representative Steven Tilley is going to introduce this in the house for us. This is one of four pieces of legislation that we need to pass this year. Once I get the house bill, we need to start pushing for this legislation.

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    Last night (26 Feb 2007) SB 457 and SB 217 were combined and voted "do pass". This means the combined bills are headed for the floor of the Senate!!

    http://www.senate.mo.gov/07info/BTS_...p;BillID=12279

    This is a link to the combined bill.

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    I got this response from my rep.

    "Office of Sen. Bill Stouffer" <bstouffer@senate.mo.gov>
    "All of NRA's priorities are my priorities and I appreciate your email. You have my support in the senate."

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    mimmerzim wrote:
    I got this response from my rep.

    "Office of Sen. Bill Stouffer" <bstouffer@senate.mo.gov>
    "All of NRA's priorities are my priorities and I appreciate your email. You have my support in the senate."
    MIMMERZIM...ROCK ON! We are ready to roll in the House..HB 1045 http://www.house.mo.gov/bills071/bills/hb1045.htm

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