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    From VA Alert:

    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    After two long years of waiting for the Department of the Interior
    (DOI) to rule on VCDL's Petition for Rule Making that would allow
    law-abiding gun owners to be able to carry in National Parks, we have
    finally gotten a formal response:

    "No."

    You would swear that the rejection letter sent to VCDL was authored
    by Sarah Brady herself.

    The reasons for the rejection? (Caution - duct taping your head
    highly recommended):

    * Parks are safe places [unless, of course, you are attacked by a
    criminal. I guess DOI doesn't read their own morning reports. VCDL
    has found plenty of stories of criminal attacks in National Parks
    covered in the media - PVC]

    * "Right to carry" laws do not reduce crime [if they do or don't is
    NOT relevant - they let decent people protect themselves - that is
    their purpose and our Constitutional right! Unfortunately, I'll bet
    if you sent a letter to DOI and mentioned "Constitution," they would
    have to get their dictionaries out to see what the word means - PVC]

    * Firearms already may be transported in a vehicle through any park
    area [Oh, thank you most powerful bureaucrats! We peons are most
    grateful for being allowed to transport totally inoperable firearms
    locked out of reach so as to protect the King's deer! Yes, let us
    eat cake! - PVC]

    * "Right to carry" laws do not protect visitors from wildlife [Huh?
    The Petition was about protection from TWO-legged predators! And
    people in Alaska who can carry in National Parks would greatly
    disagree with that statement anyhow - PVC]

    So there you have it. Bureaucrats at their best. Treating the
    citizens of this great country like we are a bunch of dumb children
    who don't know what is good for ourselves.

    These people disgust me.

    And the President, who could fix this little problem pretty much
    effortlessly, is Missing In Action....
    Link to rejection letter: http://www.vcdl.org/pdf/NPS_Denial_of_VCDL_PRM.pdf


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    I see 2 options.

    1 - Don't visit the parks

    2 - Conceal

    One of those is what I do.

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    Yea, I don't visit the parks either. On a good note Indiana DNR this year is ok with carrying, so I can still go fishing this summer.

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    Pdf seems to be broken or corrupted.

    I would also be interested in the code citation that prohibits carry in National Parks if someone has it handy. ( I know Im lazy, but I will burn an hour searching for it...:P)




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    ConditionThree wrote:
    Pdf seems to be broken or corrupted.
    Just clicked on it myself; worked fine for me.

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    Well, I can't say I'm surprised. Wouldn't the world blow up or something if the federal government did anything that made sense?

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    i think it's stupid not to allow law abidding citizens from carrying in the national parks. and now the crimminals know about it, so look out! as far as carrying concealed be carefulasit would be against the law to carry open or concealed in the national parks.

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    The letter obviously does not take the issue seriously.

    Is there a way to force the DOI to at least hold a hearing on the matter, short of actually suing?

    Is there any movement by VCDL, GOA, or anybody elseto hire the same law firm handling the Parker lawsuit to handle a lawsuit against the DOI? All it takes is money. Just keep the NRA out of it.

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