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    I asked about the "no ammo if you have a gun on you" policy. They said "it's for the safety for employees and customers".

    I asked to speak to the manager, but got an assistant manager. She said it's store policy. I asked if it's corporate policy. She said "yes". Then she said it's policy that I couldn't even have the gun in the store with a permit or not.

    Why do you have a policy saying that you can't sell ammo to someone with a firearm AND have a policy that says "no firearms" in store????

    I said, but you have no signs about no guns. She gave me this stupid look like - .

    So I said, are you asking me to leave?"Yes",shesaid. So I left. I called the corporate office and left a message.

    Will let you know what happens.

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    I thought that this was solved at this store?

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    As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew it had to be Danbus Don't forget about the link to the voicemail from the Wal Mart corporate office...

    http://www.reachtheworld.net/media/W...olicy_Call.MP3

    Keep us in the loop on any responses from corporate.

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    I don't understand, danbus, were you just going about your business and they came up to you, or did you go into the store looking to ask someone?

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    I went looking at the targets and the policy came to mind, so I thought I would just ask. I like to make waves from time to time.

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    bayboy42 wrote:
    As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew it had to be Danbus Don't forget about the link to the voicemail from the Wal Mart corporate office...

    http://www.reachtheworld.net/media/W...olicy_Call.MP3

    Keep us in the loop on any responses from corporate.
    Apparently, that number (in the voicemail) was for stores across the water.

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    danbus wrote:
    bayboy42 wrote:
    As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew it had to be Danbus Don't forget about the link to the voicemail from the Wal Mart corporate office...

    http://www.reachtheworld.net/media/W...olicy_Call.MP3

    Keep us in the loop on any responses from corporate.
    Apparently, that number (in the voicemail) was for stores across the water.
    It should not matter. It was a message from a district office stating there corp. policy. Please follow up on this and let us all know. BTW which store was this. It might be worth taking a trip up your way soon.

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    Desertdoc wrote:
    danbus wrote:
    bayboy42 wrote:
    As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew it had to be Danbus Don't forget about the link to the voicemail from the Wal Mart corporate office...

    http://www.reachtheworld.net/media/W...olicy_Call.MP3

    Keep us in the loop on any responses from corporate.
    Apparently, that number (in the voicemail) was for stores across the water.
    It should not matter. It was a message from a district office stating there corp. policy. Please follow up on this and let us all know. BTW which store was this. It might be worth taking a trip up your way soon.
    Hampton Wal-Mart. Maybe I should have had a M4 slung over my back.:P

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    danbus wrote:

    Apparently, that number (in the voicemail) was for stores across the water.

    When I got the phone call, it was my understanding she was giving the corporate policy. I also believe she was from the regional office, but I'm not sure what areas the region emcompases.


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    Keep carrying at the Hampton WalMart. They will eventually stop the harassment once the General Managfer gets told by corporate that they ain't going to back them up.:shock:

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    Since this issue is a recurrent one for this store, I doubt it has much to do with the "Black Man with a Gun" aspect. I think it is best explained by "aggravated mopery" on the part of the employee/manager. I hope we get some written correspondence for corporate on this, so we can all make xeroxes and carry them with us in future forays in to Wally World!

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    Does the Hampton Wal-Mart still sell guns?

    I keep hearing about Wal-Mart phasing out guns, but I've see no sign of that from the Yorktown Wal-Mart (and Newport News Wal-Mart occasionally) that I frequent.





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    danbus wrote:
    I like to make waves from time to time.
    I admire that in a person.
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    Danbus,
    When you are contacted by corporate, would you p;ease ask for something in writing? If we can get ahold of a document on Wal-Mart letterhead, signed by someone at headquarters, it can be posted, then xeroxed by anyone on OCDO. Phil Van Cleave would probably post a copy on VCDL as well. Since Wal-Mart is the nation's largest retailer, and claims it conforms its policy to the laws of the individual states, it would be great if all of us could carry a letter to use whenever some local manager has an acute attack of liberalism upon seeing a firearm.

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    If you're up for some saber rattling, I found the found number for Walmart's Insurance/Liability/Legal Department (800-527-0566 x20627 Mrs. Sue Kofoid)

    I have dealt with them in the part on an unrelated matter, and they call the shots.
    They dictate policy down the line and make legal settlements.

    Whether they will entertain your call or not.. it all depends on how you phrase it in terms of liability.

    danbus wrote:
    Desertdoc wrote:
    danbus wrote:
    bayboy42 wrote:
    As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew it had to be Danbus Don't forget about the link to the voicemail from the Wal Mart corporate office...

    http://www.reachtheworld.net/media/W...olicy_Call.MP3

    Keep us in the loop on any responses from corporate.
    Apparently, that number (in the voicemail) was for stores across the water.
    It should not matter. It was a message from a district office stating there corp. policy. Please follow up on this and let us all know. BTW which store was this. It might be worth taking a trip up your way soon.
    Hampton Wal-Mart. Maybe I should have had a M4 slung over my back.:P

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    psmartin wrote:
    If you're up for some saber rattling, I found the found number for Walmart's Insurance/Liability/Legal Department (800-527-0566 x20627 Mrs. Sue Kofoid)

    I have dealt with them in the part on an unrelated matter, and they call the shots.
    They dictate policy down the line and make legal settlements.

    Whether they will entertain your call or not.. it all depends on how you phrase it in terms of liability.

    It wouldn't hurt to have an official from maybe VCDL call this Mrs. Kofoid and request a written statement.

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    I got a call today from Wal-Mart corporate, and was told that he sent out an email to all the Wal-Marts stating that we can carry openly and should we have the need to purchase ammo, they will escort us and the ammo to the door, and give it to us once we are outside. He also said he will call me back when he hears from the higher ups about the EXACT policy.

    Funny, we should buy ammo first THEN walk around the store for little things with them carrying our ammo. :P

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    danbus wrote:
    I got a call today from Wal-Mart corporate, and was told that he sent out an email to all the Wal-Marts stating that we can carry openly and should we have the need to purchase ammo, they will escort us and the ammo to the door, and give it to us once we are outside. He also said he will call me back when he hears from the higher ups about the EXACT policy.

    Funny, we should buy ammo first THEN walk around the store for little things with them carrying our ammo. :P
    I buy ammo at a WalMart in Fairfax County while OCing and just walk myself out, or continue to browse. But at least this report is progress.

    Can you image 4 folks going in, each buying ammo, and wach then browsing?

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    Four shoppers might cause some consternation. Maybe after the next OCDO dinner, a dozen or more of us could go shopping together for a few hundred dollars worth of ammo, and see if they can rally enough people to escort us all.

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    I buy four hundred rounds or so per trip to WalMart. I don't shoot this qty each range trip. I buy this qtyto cut down on trips. Becausethis qty of ammunition is a bit heavy, I do all my othershopping first; then I go to Sporting Goods. Another advantage is that I avoid the long lines at the front of the store and pay for everything at the Sporting Goods counter.Leaving immediately after purchase would align exactly withmy intentions, so its not a huge loss for me if they want to enforce an escort-out policy. It'll give me an opportunity to make friends with the escort and create one more person who thinkswell of armed citizens.

    Maybe a quick note to WalMart that it would be pointless to escort the OCers out of the store.There's been a lot of ammo purchased in Wal-Marts. I'm sure there were plenty of CC-er's making purchases. Nothing's happened tomy knowledge. If the ammunition goes in a double-bag, which itoften does anyway for strength, nobody else knows.Gently suggesting discriminationby pointing out that they do not escort out people who buy other sporting items might help.

    I've made friends with the Sporting Goods clerks atmyWal-Mart. It helps to be on good terms with the people you do business with. I've had them go out of their way for me.Can't have too many friends, unless its your turn to buy.
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    Maybe I just had a good experience; but, the Va beach Walmart I go to, I never have an issue. I bought the ammo I needed, while open while ocing, and left with it from the sporting goods counter. No questions , nothing, well lets keep pushing the issue!!!


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    You may have read my wifes comment on the Burke Walmart we visited earlier in the week (marineswife). I went into Walmart with her because she wanted some clothing so i went in OCing and as soon as i get in there one of the associates looks at me and walks quickly to who i am assuming is a manager or higher authority figure of walmart. The red vested man walks over to me and my wife as she is looking at the undergarments and the red vested man kinda stares at me and asks. "Are you a cop?" "No" i reply. "Are you security?" again "No" I reply. He looks at me confused and dumbfounded as i look at him with a smile. I tell him its Virginia law that enables me to open carry in this location. He smiles and says "Oh ok, I was just wondering" In a pleaseant tone of voice and walks away.

    I understand that many people in the Burke Walmart dont usualy OC or see people that do and want answers as to why I am doing so or is it legal? Same response most people would give to seeing someone with a severe disabilityor extra appendage, its just not common. Thats my rant

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    SIGarmed229 wrote:
    He looks at me confused and dumbfounded as i look at him with a smile. I tell him its Virginia law that enables me to open carry in this location. He smiles and says "Oh ok, I was just wondering" In a pleaseant tone of voice and walks away.
    Good appraoch, although it always bothers me why US Citizens have been cowed into thinking that their conduct must be authorized by law - that's backwards, all conduct is legal unless make unlawful by statute, and even then, sometimes statutes can be struck down as going to far. E.g., Lopez.

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    Mike, I really like that way of thinking. I do not want to live in any nation where they tell me what I can do, but rather make it known what I cannot do and had better show good cause as to why. Another of my favorite quotes applies:

    "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws."[/i][/b]
    -[/i]Plato, 427 BC-348


    Ok, I'm done sucking up now......lol

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