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IWB and Open Carry?

jeri534

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If I have my shirt tucked in, can I carry with an IWB holster?
 

azcdlfred

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jeri534 wrote:
If I have my shirt tucked in, can I carry with an IWB holster?


It depends. The law, ARS 13-3102.F, says the gun must be in a belt holster and the holster (not the gun) must be visible. In a typical IWB, the holster may not be visible. Compounding that are the 1994 Adams and Moerman decisions that intperpreted the "wholly or partially" visible language in the ARS to mean obvious to ordinary observation. So, a gun tucked in an IWB may not be obvious and the holster may not be visible. It's all up to the whim of the cop you encounter and your attitude at the time. There is noclear objective standard to go by.

Wanna see it get better? AzCDL has two bills we're pushing this year:
SB1301- redifines open carry.
SB1629- drops the penatly for CCW w/o a permit to petty offense.

We could use your help getting these bills passed.

Fred
 

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The ambiguity surrounding open carry (and concealed carry to a large extent) is ridiculous.

If it were up to me, no permits for either, period. :cuss:

I want to see the laws changed and will do my part where I can.
 

azcdlfred

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Hermit wrote:
The ambiguity surrounding open carry (and concealed carry to a large extent) is ridiculous.

If it were up to me, no permits for either, period. :cuss:

I want to see the laws changed and will do my part where I can.

Our goal is to make permits optional. We found that many non-carrying gun owners like permits because they can bypass the NICS check. Also, having a permit brings reocgnition and reciprocity with other states.

We want to decriminilize law-abiding carrying without a permit.

Fred
 

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azcdlfred wrote:
Hermit wrote:
The ambiguity surrounding open carry (and concealed carry to a large extent) is ridiculous.

If it were up to me, no permits for either, period. :cuss:

I want to see the laws changed and will do my part where I can.

Our goal is to make permits optional. We found that many non-carrying gun owners like permits because they can bypass the NICS check. Also, having a permit brings reocgnition and reciprocity with other states.

We want to decriminilize law-abiding carrying without a permit.

Fred
I understand. I'm all for decriminalizing law-abiding citizens carrying without a permit.
 
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