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    http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/04/va...ised_defea.php

    A Virginia Tech official in 2006 praised the defeat of a proposal to allow students with state-issued concealed handgun permits to carry their handguns on college campuses in Virginia. At least 20 unarmed students were killed on the VA Tech campus Monday morning by a single gunman.

    Virginia House Bill 1572 was proposed in 2005 by Shenandoah County, Va., Republican Del. Todd Gilbert after a VA Tech student with a state-issued concealed handgun permit was arrested and charged only with "unlawfully" carrying a handgun on campus. The bill would have prohibited state universities in Virginia from enacting "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

    After the proposal died in the state's House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety, The Roanoke Times quoted VA Tech spokesman Larry Hincker as celebrating the defeat of the bill.

    "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions," Hincker said on Jan. 31, 2006, "because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

    Following Monday's multiple-victim shooting at VA Tech, Erich Pratt with Virginia-based Gun Owners of America called that philosophy "idiocy."

    "I think gun control advocates will say, 'See, we need more gun control,' even though this is exactly the product of gun control," Pratt said.

    Currently, only Utah has a statute specifically authorizing law-abiding individuals with concealed handgun permits to possess their firearms on state university property. Most other states have explicit or implied prohibitions.

    "Every school campus [other than those in Utah] in this nation is a 'gun free zone,' supposedly," Pratt bemoaned. "But, isn't it amazing that criminals, bad guys never obey those laws."

    Regarding Utah, Pratt adds, "Isn't it interesting that that's the one state where we haven't heard of any school shootings."

    At least two school shootings have been stopped by armed civilians before police arrived:

    · January 9, 2002, Appalachian School of Law in Grundy, Va. - 43 year old Peter Odighizuwa, who had flunked out of the small law school earlier in the week killed three people and wounded three others. Two law students - Tracy Bridges and Ted Besen - retreived a handgun from Bridges' vehicle and held Odighizuwa at gun point for several minutes before police arrived. (Bridges was a reserve deputy sheriff, but was not on duty at the time of the incident.)

    · October 1, 1997, Pearl High School, Pearl, Ms. - 16 year old Luke Woodham carried a rifle onto the school campus, killed his ex-girlfriend and one of her friends and wounded seven other people. Assisstant Principal Joel Myrick retreived a handgun from his truck and held Woodham for police. It was later learned that the teeneager had beaten and stabbed his own mother to death before the attack at the school.

    Pratt is not optimistic, however, that lawmakers will allow public university students and faculty members to protect themselves from mass murderers like the one who struck VA Tech Monday.

    "The only schools and universities where these tragedies have been stopped abruptly were the places where law-abiding citizens had a gun that was accessible to them and they were able to stop the shooter," Pratt noted. "The schools and universities that had to wait for the police to arrive, those are the ones that find these high death tolls.

    "It's just a real shame," he concluded, "that these guys never get it."


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    Doug Huffman wrote:

    "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions," Hincker said on Jan. 31, 2006, "because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
    Those words have blood dripping all over them now.



    Stay safe....

    Highlander

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    I hope Hincker will enjoy my letter I am drafting.

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    What is the difference between HB 1572 and HB 2300 ( http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...071+sum+HB2300 )?

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    i'm going to class in a couple of hours. i wish i could carry. i just don't feel safe.

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    Carry anyway. Learn to conceal very well. After what happened today, you will be completely justified.

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    BTW, folks, little gem I found out there in cyberspace:

    "You can email Larry Hincker at hincker@vt.edu, or call him at (540) 231-5396"

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    The press has been making a big deal about the "Texas Tower" shootings during all this as well. It seems they have forgotten that an armed citizen was actually the person that shot the guy, and was only assisted by a single police officer.

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    And then in September 2006, after a shooting near campus prompted a campus panic as a gunman wondered about, Vice President Hinkler belittled adult students for wanting their gun rights on campus:

    “After the fear, and dare I say, panic from the events of Aug. 21, it is absolutely mind-boggling to see the opinions of Bradford Wiles . . .The editors of this page must have printed this commentary if for no other reason than malicious compliance. Surely, they scratched their heads saying, 'I can't believe he really wants to say that.' Wiles tells us that he didn't feel safe with the hundreds of highly trained officers armed with high powered rifles encircling the building and protecting him. He even implies that he needed his sidearm to protect himself . . . On that fateful Monday, campus was understandably on edge. Elvis-type sightings of the escaped prisoner around campus were rampant. People were legitimately concerned about where he might be. . . . The writer would have us believe that a university campus, with tens of thousands of young people, is safer with everyone packing heat. Imagine the continual fear of students in that scenario. We've seen that fear here, and we don't want to see it again.. . . Contrary to his position, the writer's commentary actually gives credence to the university policy preventing weapons in classrooms. Guns don't belong in classrooms. They never will. Virginia Tech has a very sound policy preventing same.” See “Imagine if students were armed,” Commentary, The Roanoke Times[/i], by Larry Hincker, 5 September 2006, available at http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/81277 (emphasis added).
    Good job Larry. Hopefully somebody soon will say, “Larry, You’re Fired!”[/b]

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