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To sendGovernor Kaine anemail, go to: http://www.governor.virginia.gov/AboutTheGovernor/contactGovernor.cfm
Sample message:
SUBJECT: Please put that pen down!
Dear Governor Kaine:
Virginia leads the entire nation in reporting properly adjudicated findings of mental incompetency and incapacity to the federal government - some 80,000 reports!
Please do not sign any rash executive order turning over mental health related records where there was not a properly adjudicated finding of mental incompetency and incapacity to the federal government - once those people retroactively lose their gun and other civil rights without any due process, they will never get their rights back.
The Virginia Tech murders do call for action after proper study - but not simple REACTION with permanent consequences to potentially sane and innocent Americans who might have merely voluntarily undergone mental heath screening and treatment.
If you do want to do something to increase campus security right now, issue an executive order barring VA colleges from administratively banning (the currently legal) concealed carry by students and staff who are permit holders over 21.
Please let me know what you are going to do.
Sincerely,
YOUR NAME
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OpenCarry.org Press Release – 25 April 2007
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OpenCarry.org calls on Virginia Governor Tim Kaine (D) and Congress to take a breather before rushing to add millions of American's names to federal list of crazies![/b]
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If Kaine wants to do something now, he should issue an executive order barring VA colleges from administratively banning (the currently legal) concealed carry by students and staff who are permit holders over 21. [/b]
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If you like the federal no-fly list, you'll love what's coming next - the fortified crazy man list, brought to you bya friendly executive order!
See "Kaine May Seek More Data for Gun Sales; Order Would Address Buyers' Mental Health," The Washington Post, byBrigid Schulte, 25 April 2007, p. A1, available at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042402524.html?hpid=topnews.
Of course everybody agrees ex post that criminal madman Cho should have been a prohibited person as far as gun possession goes, and that he should have been committed to a medical institution and helped.
But does that mean that everybody who evervoluntarily agreed to undergo mental health evaluation and treatment should be added to the federal crazy man list? Especially when federal gun disabilities are lifetime and there is no way to get off the list once added, even if cured?
Governor Kaine is now considering forwarding names and personal identifying information on persons who, like Cho,voluntarily agreed to undergo mental health evaluation and treatment. If copied by other states, the result would not just betheretroactive removal of gun rights for millions of Americans without any notice - the federal crazy man list will interfere in Americans' right to work in most jobs requiring security clearance or background checks - increasingly, that's most people!
Sliding down that slope, will crazy man list people's right to air travel be banned next - and an annotation placed on the person's REAL ID so that this ban can be enforced?
The unintended consequences of a fortified federal crazy manlist in this era of identity theft and fraud will be immense.
So to will be the deterrent effect on anybody in the future from seeking mental health treatment the sick will avoid treatment to protect their privacy and civil rights.
If Kaine wants to do something now, he should issue an executive order barring VA colleges from administratively banning currently legal concealed carry by permit holders over 21.
The Virginia Tech Student Assembly is now rumored to be considering a student bill to ask the VT Administration to repeal the student administrative gun ban for permit holders onthe VT campuseffective immediately
Meanwhile, college groups are springing up around the country calling for right to carry - see [url]http://concealedcampus.org[/url].
Further, in the next session, the VA General Assembly should decriminalize gun carry by permit holders on K-12 school grounds - we should have learned by now - no more gun free zones which is just a euphemism for victim disarmament zones.
Congress too should slow down - now that the NRA has apparently folded it's opposition to RepresentativeCarolyn McCarthy's (D-NY) H.R. 297, Gun Owners of America appears to be the only major civil rights group in the United States standing up like the 300 Spartans did to Xerxes against the largest policy by anecdote steamroller seen since Sept. 11th brought us the Patriot Act.
Click on the "VA Tech Shootings Spur Far-reaching Gun Control" link at [url]http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm[/url].
Let's be careful about letting government create anymore lists.
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Contact anytime on gun stories:
Mike Stollenwerk/John Pierce
[url]http://www.OpenCarry.org[/url]
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To sendGovernor Kaine anemail, go to: http://www.governor.virginia.gov/AboutTheGovernor/contactGovernor.cfm
Sample message:
SUBJECT: Please put that pen down!
Dear Governor Kaine:
Virginia leads the entire nation in reporting properly adjudicated findings of mental incompetency and incapacity to the federal government - some 80,000 reports!
Please do not sign any rash executive order turning over mental health related records where there was not a properly adjudicated finding of mental incompetency and incapacity to the federal government - once those people retroactively lose their gun and other civil rights without any due process, they will never get their rights back.
The Virginia Tech murders do call for action after proper study - but not simple REACTION with permanent consequences to potentially sane and innocent Americans who might have merely voluntarily undergone mental heath screening and treatment.
If you do want to do something to increase campus security right now, issue an executive order barring VA colleges from administratively banning (the currently legal) concealed carry by students and staff who are permit holders over 21.
Please let me know what you are going to do.
Sincerely,
YOUR NAME
----------------
**************************************
OpenCarry.org Press Release – 25 April 2007
**************************************
[/b]
OpenCarry.org calls on Virginia Governor Tim Kaine (D) and Congress to take a breather before rushing to add millions of American's names to federal list of crazies![/b]
[/b]
If Kaine wants to do something now, he should issue an executive order barring VA colleges from administratively banning (the currently legal) concealed carry by students and staff who are permit holders over 21. [/b]
[/b]
If you like the federal no-fly list, you'll love what's coming next - the fortified crazy man list, brought to you bya friendly executive order!
See "Kaine May Seek More Data for Gun Sales; Order Would Address Buyers' Mental Health," The Washington Post, byBrigid Schulte, 25 April 2007, p. A1, available at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042402524.html?hpid=topnews.
Of course everybody agrees ex post that criminal madman Cho should have been a prohibited person as far as gun possession goes, and that he should have been committed to a medical institution and helped.
But does that mean that everybody who evervoluntarily agreed to undergo mental health evaluation and treatment should be added to the federal crazy man list? Especially when federal gun disabilities are lifetime and there is no way to get off the list once added, even if cured?
Governor Kaine is now considering forwarding names and personal identifying information on persons who, like Cho,voluntarily agreed to undergo mental health evaluation and treatment. If copied by other states, the result would not just betheretroactive removal of gun rights for millions of Americans without any notice - the federal crazy man list will interfere in Americans' right to work in most jobs requiring security clearance or background checks - increasingly, that's most people!
Sliding down that slope, will crazy man list people's right to air travel be banned next - and an annotation placed on the person's REAL ID so that this ban can be enforced?
The unintended consequences of a fortified federal crazy manlist in this era of identity theft and fraud will be immense.
So to will be the deterrent effect on anybody in the future from seeking mental health treatment the sick will avoid treatment to protect their privacy and civil rights.
If Kaine wants to do something now, he should issue an executive order barring VA colleges from administratively banning currently legal concealed carry by permit holders over 21.
The Virginia Tech Student Assembly is now rumored to be considering a student bill to ask the VT Administration to repeal the student administrative gun ban for permit holders onthe VT campuseffective immediately
Meanwhile, college groups are springing up around the country calling for right to carry - see [url]http://concealedcampus.org[/url].
Further, in the next session, the VA General Assembly should decriminalize gun carry by permit holders on K-12 school grounds - we should have learned by now - no more gun free zones which is just a euphemism for victim disarmament zones.
Congress too should slow down - now that the NRA has apparently folded it's opposition to RepresentativeCarolyn McCarthy's (D-NY) H.R. 297, Gun Owners of America appears to be the only major civil rights group in the United States standing up like the 300 Spartans did to Xerxes against the largest policy by anecdote steamroller seen since Sept. 11th brought us the Patriot Act.
Click on the "VA Tech Shootings Spur Far-reaching Gun Control" link at [url]http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm[/url].
Let's be careful about letting government create anymore lists.
##########################
Contact anytime on gun stories:
Mike Stollenwerk/John Pierce
[url]http://www.OpenCarry.org[/url]
##########################
