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    I travel to a small town in eastern Oregon (Enterprise) quite regularly. I'd like to carry but don't have a Oregon CWL. Can I open carry? If so is the vehicle a no no?

    Also I would like to obtain an Oregon CWL. From what I have read thecounty sheriff can wave the residency restrictions if there is a valid "business interest or other legitimate demonstrated need" I think that I have read somewhere that Lonnie, you have a Oregon CWL. Do you mind me asking you, or any other WA resident with a OR CWL what reasons you gave and if it was very difficult to obtain your out of state CWL. Also, would I go to the county sheriff where I visit the most?

    I sure appreciate any help, THANKS!!

    Clint-


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    duck ninja wrote:
    I travel to a small town in eastern Oregon (Enterprise) quite regularly. I'd like to carry but don't have a Oregon CWL. Can I open carry? If so is the vehicle a no no?

    Also I would like to obtain an Oregon CWL. From what I have read thecounty sheriff can wave the residency restrictions if there is a valid "business interest or other legitimate demonstrated need" I think that I have read somewhere that Lonnie, you have a Oregon CWL. Do you mind me asking you, or any other WA resident with a OR CWL what reasons you gave and if it was very difficult to obtain your out of state CWL. Also, would I go to the county sheriff where I visit the most?

    I sure appreciate any help, THANKS!!

    Clint-
    First question on open carry in eastern OR:

    To our knowledge, there are no "loaded firearm ban" cities in Eastern Oregon. Thus far, they've been confined to Northwestern Oregon in the Portland/Salem corridor.

    Remember that without a CHL, you cannot carry concealed in any "public building" (violation is a felony).

    Open car carry in a belt holster is legal.

    State v. Fisher, 100 Or. App. 149 (1990) “We conclude that the plain language of ORS 166.250 does not make it unlawful for a person to carry a firearm openly in a belt holster, whether or not the person is riding in a motor vehicle.”

    Under ORS 166.291(8), you may apply to any Sheriff. The question here is where do you currently live. I should be able to point you in the right direction for which sheriff to go to.

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    Thanks for the info Lonnie.

    I live on Camano Island WA but the town that I frequent in OR is called Enterprise. It's about an hour east of LaGrande in Wallowa county. I assume I would go to the Wallowa county sheriff. My question would be what would my valid "demonstrated need" be. Is personal protection enough of a reason?

    Thanks,

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    That's sorta the point, you don't have to go to Wallowa County.

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    Since you visit eastern Oregon frequently, and I plotted a course from Camano to Enterprise going through that county, I would recommend that you contact the Umatilla County Sheriffs Office in Pendleton.

    http://www.co.umatilla.or.us/hand_gun.htm

    Give them a jingle and ask them a few questions. Last I heard the sheriff there considers self defense an other legitimate demonstrated need. If the sheriff in Pendleton doesn't work out, send me a PM and I'll bring you up to speed on options near the I-5 corridor.

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    Lonnie Wilson wrote: From that site:

    PLACES CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSE HOLDERS MAY NOT CARRY A FIREARM:

    * Designated Recreation Areas on State forest lands.

    * Any private business or facility which prohibits possession of firearms.

    If found with a weapon on these premises, the concealed handgun license will be seized and returned to the Sheriff, and the holder may be subject to criminal and/or civil penalties.
    So, a business doesn't have to ask you to leave with your handgun, and if you don't, it's just a criminal trespass. If you get caught, it's automatic loss of permit AND criminal charges. Oh my!

    Not only that, it seems as if this is regardless of carrying concealed *or* openly.

    Thanks!
    Greg

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    gregma wrote:
    Lonnie Wilson wrote: From that site:

    PLACES CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSE HOLDERS MAY NOT CARRY A FIREARM:

    * Designated Recreation Areas on State forest lands.

    * Any private business or facility which prohibits possession of firearms.

    If found with a weapon on these premises, the concealed handgun license will be seized and returned to the Sheriff, and the holder may be subject to criminal and/or civil penalties.
    So, a business doesn't have to ask you to leave with your handgun, and if you don't, it's just a criminal trespass. If you get caught, it's automatic loss of permit AND criminal charges. Oh my!

    Not only that, it seems as if this is regardless of carrying concealed *or* openly.

    Thanks!
    Greg

    This is a common statement across the state, and it's completely and totally wrong. I believe that those "rules" are preempted in the first place, and Oregon has no "violate a sign and you're automatically trespassing" law.

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