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    http://www.9news.com/news/local/arti...?storyid=70307

    DENVER (AP) - A University of Denver student who spent the night in jail will get $8,500 under a settlement announced this week by the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado.

    Officers will also be trained that it's OK for citizens to ask officers for their ID.

    ACLU attorney Taylor Pendergrass says Evan Herzoff filmed the arrest of an individual April 8 of last year when Officer Jeffrey Morgan asked him for his ID. He was told he was free to go and that's when Herzoff asked Morgan for his business card.

    Herzoff was arrested on suspicion of trespassing, handcuffed and jailed.

    The charge was later dropped and police launched an internal investigation following a complaint. An independent police monitor says the officer was disciplined but couldn't release details.

    City officials say the settlement requires approval by the City Council.
    Note that the officers will be 'trained' rather than re-trained as discussed elsewhere on OCDO.

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    Bully with a badge...

    Ofc. Morgan is an embarassment to DPD, his city and LEOs across the country.



    Here's a much better written account of the incident:

    http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_5923178



    ...and a link to the video:

    http://aclu-co.org/news/pressrelease...f_05_16_07.htm



    Hey! This is a case where the ACLU done good! Kudos to them on this one.



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    I have heard rumors that video taping Police is now a crime due to some Homeland Security BS. Anybody know the facts on this?

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    LoveMyCountry wrote:
    I have heard rumors that video taping Police is now a crime due to some Homeland Security BS. Anybody know the facts on this?

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    Haven't heard that.
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    LoveMyCountry wrote:
    I have heard rumors that video taping Police is now a crime due to some Homeland Security BS. Anybody know the facts on this?

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    Lies and BS. In almost every state. I believe Massachusetts has that law but not any other state. Here in Washington it's legal to record officers surreptitiously. State v. Flora.

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    Good to know.

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    Does anyone have any suggestions for a hidden video camera setup to record one's actions while OCing?

    I've often thought that some "upstanding citizen" or LEO could make up a story about one's activity while OCing, leaving you or me to hold the bag.



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    BB62 wrote:
    Does anyone have any suggestions for a hidden video camera setup to record one's actions while OCing?

    I've often thought that some "upstanding citizen" or LEO could make up a story about one's activity while OCing, leaving you or me to hold the bag.
    That's a great idea. Some people do lie...

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    BB62 wrote:
    Does anyone have any suggestions for a hidden video camera setup to record one's actions while OCing?

    I've often thought that some "upstanding citizen" or LEO could make up a story about one's activity while OCing, leaving you or me to hold the bag.

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    It occurs to me that this officer and his buddies are too stupid to continue being police officers. Um, if they arrested this guy, why didn't they also have an accident and erase the offending video tape ? No amount of re-training is gonna help here as far as I can tell.

    Or put another way, while patently stupid this cop was too honest to stay out of trouble. On the other hand his superiors are not stupid. But from their statements acknowledge dishonesty in the cops as a rule. (Read the Denver post story cited above. Especially the last quote in the article.)

    They also can't fire the cop, mainly because he *was* honest.

    Sigh.....

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    DOUG,

    That is a GREAT FIND!! I will study it.

    Thanks much!

    I did a Google search through a lot of pages for "digital tapeless video recorder" and never came across anything like it.

    How did you happen to know about it?


    Thanks again,

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    HankT wrote:
    Here's a much better written account of the incident:

    http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_5923178
    This article was, indeed, more well written than the one OP posted. I still had a problem with the article in that it seemed to pay more attention to the fact that tax payers would be penalized for this case. Indeed, tax payers would be footing the bill for this. Given the circumstances, however, I, as a taxpayer (though, not of CO), would not oppose such a settlement on the basis that it exposed an inept LEO/PD that citizens would be more concerned with.

    I might begin to question the motives of the case had Herzoff been seeking an outrageous settlement.

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