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    Hello all-

    My wife andI are going to Ocean Isle this week for a little night timesurf casting,and want to know if the beach is a "State Park", or "National Park", and/or prohibits the carry of concealed weapons. We live in Va. and are not familiar with the NC laws except that we have an reciprocal agreement with NC. All pointers, tips, warningsor linksare welcomed. Thanks.

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    Hello i am from NC & i live 45 Topsail Island.. Can you tell what city or county OCEAN ISLE reside in? With that valuable information i can have you answer hopefully 2 close to hrs.... thanks

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    It looks like it will be Brunswick county. Columbus is a little NorthWest of that but it looks more like Brunswick. Thanks

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    Hello i have a answer i called THE OCEAN ISLE Beach POLICE DEPT (910)579-4221 & spoke with the a female desk.. She said you would have to bring your hand gun to the station also i informed that VA does reciprocate FOR CONCEAL CARRY ONLY...Twist #1 against the law to carry a handgun in a POLICE STATION & other various locations. My suggestion is DO NOT open carry,,,OC is for NC residents,,,,if u want to carry concealed u are covered along with permit,,,last of all 1 phone to the police man on beach with gun in plain view TERROR TO THE PUBLIC,,,,,,CONCEALED carry law & open carry 2 entirely different laws... think about it

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    Thanks

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    Open carry is not for NC residents alone. It applies for any American, as designed by our founding fathers. A VA resident can cross into NC and open carry all day long. Calling the police dept is the worst way to get the right answer. They don't want an armed individual running around the retirees. Of course they're going to tell you not to carry. They would prefer you left your guns at home, or better yet, not own any. As long as the beach is a national park, you may open carry to your heart's delight. Open carry and concealed carry are viewed equally by the state, with the exception of financial institutions that will allow OC.

    I hope this message catches you before you leave. I would hate for you to be unarmed, should you need it, due to misinformation.

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    Once again you blow me away with your wisdom. 40Cal is right.

    The cops are notour enemy, but more like the very bossy big bother that likes to twist around and add to what the Big Pappa (USA) says you can do. They're there for us, but at the same time they can be a huge pain in the ass.

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    .40 Cal wrote:
    As long as the beach is a national park, you may open carry to your heart's delight.
    Did you mean to say as long as the beach is not a national park, you may open carry?
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    Well I hope the beach isn't a national park, because a few weeks ago I took a nice long, liesurely stroll up and down the beach with my .40 on my hip. Ya know thestereotypical beach outfit...loose-fitting wrinkly white button up shirt and linen pants with sandals? Yeah, picture that, but with a gun lol. I don't know how many people noticed (there were plenty of people on the beach) but no one seemed to care.

    I didn't even think to consider that the beach would be a national park. I'll have to check that out.

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    All right, I'm confused. Remind me please..is any kind of carrying allowed innational parks in NC??

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    unrequited wrote:
    Did you mean to say as long as the beach is not a national park, you may open carry?
    No, actually state parks are restricted. National parks aren't. They are controlled by federal laws.

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    lol I'm so confused! Anyway it looks like any of the public beaches are NOT state nor national parks. The only part of the beaches that are national parks are the capes (i.e. cape lookout and hatarass or however you spell that). From what I understand, it's safe to assume that if there are businesses and/or houses along the beach, then it is NOT a park...it's simply public or private property.

    I figure if I walk out there and don't pass a sign that tells me I'm entering a park, nor do I see any signs referencing weapons, then I'm not restricted.

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    Thanks guy's. We have been to Ocean Isle Beach and back already. Nice place. Not too much going on there though. It's a family beach with "LOTS" of private homes/ rentalsand a few hotels and places to eat. No problems carrying. I just CC'd and let it go at that. Beach rules signs everywhere. None of which say anything about firearms. Classic rules with "NO Alcohol" But no mention of guns. Thanks for all of your input and willingness to teach. Ciao!

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    .40 Cal wrote:
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    Did you mean to say as long as the beach is not a national park, you may open carry?
    No, actually state parks are restricted.* National parks aren't.* They are controlled by federal laws.
    That's that whole Title 18 thing section 930 that Mike's working on... I know for a fact that I don't carry in Shennandoah for that exact reason. Now you've got me stumped.
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    Dre has it right. I am humbled. :quirky

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    Possesion of a firearm in a NATIONAL PARK is a felony except for transporting through the park . This info. was given to me by a lawyer .

    The beaches may however not be National Park land .

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    casullshooter wrote:
    Possesion of a firearm in a NATIONAL PARK is a felony
    no.it's a minor crime - either federal misdemeanor or civil penalty, but no felony.



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    Did I read that you were working on correcting this, Mike?

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    http://www.packing.org/faq/

    Carry concealed weapons on Federal Property

    Q: Is Post Office Carry Legal?
    A: Check the General Notes area of the All United States Page at Packing.org. There you will find links to threads on Packing.org that discuss this topic and links to outside sources on this topic.

    Q: Carry in National Parks.
    A: Carry in National Parks is not legal even with a permit. Gun must be unloaded and stored while in a National Park.

    Q: Carry In National Forest
    A: If you can legally carry in the state the National Forest is in you can carry in the National Forest. You can not carry into any buildings on the National Forest as they are owned by the Federal Government.


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    I'm totally confused. I am planning a trip to Topsail Beach for a few days of fishing and am trying to get educated on OC'ing during our trip. I'm pretty sure that I wont be able to OC on the Jolly Roger Fishing Pier because they sell alcohol inside the hotel office and allow alcohol to be consumed on the pier. I'm trying to be sure about anywhere else on the island we visit during our trip. Any rapid responses would greatly be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smlawrence View Post
    I'm totally confused. I am planning a trip to Topsail Beach for a few days of fishing and am trying to get educated on OC'ing during our trip. I'm pretty sure that I wont be able to OC on the Jolly Roger Fishing Pier because they sell alcohol inside the hotel office and allow alcohol to be consumed on the pier. I'm trying to be sure about anywhere else on the island we visit during our trip. Any rapid responses would greatly be appreciated.
    Guess there isn't anyone with any input or experiences??
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    Quote Originally Posted by UTOC-45-44 View Post
    http://www.packing.org/faq/

    Carry concealed weapons on Federal Property

    Q: Is Post Office Carry Legal?
    A: Check the General Notes area of the All United States Page at Packing.org. There you will find links to threads on Packing.org that discuss this topic and links to outside sources on this topic.

    Q: Carry in National Parks.
    A: Carry in National Parks is not legal even with a permit. Gun must be unloaded and stored while in a National Park.

    Q: Carry In National Forest
    A: If you can legally carry in the state the National Forest is in you can carry in the National Forest. You can not carry into any buildings on the National Forest as they are owned by the Federal Government.
    Wrong Wrong and Wrong...they need to update their crap....search the forum

    Carry in National Parks IS LEGAL as we have cited and pointed out many times on this forum. Technically I believe you need to have a concealed carry permit for the state in which the national park falls land-wise. Although at the "restore the constitution rally" in Greensboro there were 300+ people carrying in Guilford Courthouse NATIONAL Park with 15-20 LEOs standing around watching. Nothing was done, as it was legal.

    True that BUILDINGS ARE OFF LIMITS even if not posted. Usually National Forests are fair game, but as others have pointed out on this forum, it depends if it falls within a WMA (wildlife management area) of the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smlawrence View Post
    I'm totally confused. I am planning a trip to Topsail Beach for a few days of fishing and am trying to get educated on OC'ing during our trip. I'm pretty sure that I wont be able to OC on the Jolly Roger Fishing Pier because they sell alcohol inside the hotel office and allow alcohol to be consumed on the pier. I'm trying to be sure about anywhere else on the island we visit during our trip. Any rapid responses would greatly be appreciated.
    Well I ended up answering my own question. I've spent the past 3 days down here on Topsaid Island. We were either at our hotel room or at the Jolly Roger Pier fishing. At night the 1 cop that they have on duty usually stops in at the Jolly Roger to chat. I had the opportunity to ask him about local laws and he said there was nothing prohibiting me from OC'ing. I said great. He did say however that if he or the other LEO's saw me they would more than likely stop and find out what I am doing and why I am carrying. Of course I didn't get to OC much as we fished 90% of the time on the Pier and they do sell alcohol for consumption on the pier. Nice to know though, in case anyone comes down for anything but fishing on the pier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farkles View Post
    Wrong Wrong and Wrong...they need to update their crap....search the forum

    Carry in National Parks IS LEGAL as we have cited and pointed out many times on this forum. Technically I believe you need to have a concealed carry permit for the state in which the national park falls land-wise. Although at the "restore the constitution rally" in Greensboro there were 300+ people carrying in Guilford Courthouse NATIONAL Park with 15-20 LEOs standing around watching. Nothing was done, as it was legal.

    True that BUILDINGS ARE OFF LIMITS even if not posted. Usually National Forests are fair game, but as others have pointed out on this forum, it depends if it falls within a WMA (wildlife management area) of the state.
    My understanding is it depends on state law where the park is located in. So if the state allows OC or CC with or without permits (including if they recognize non-resident permits) you can carry in National Parks. If the state doesn't allow it then you can't.
    Last edited by Venator; 09-30-2010 at 11:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    My understanding is it depends on state law where the park is located in. So it the state allows OC or CC with or without permits (including if the recognize non-resident permits) you can carry in National Parks. If the state doesn't allow it then you can't.
    Correct

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