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    This is a link to an article defending no knock warrants-

    http://www.officer.com/publication/a...1&id=35336

    Some of its more infuriating comments are:

    In November 2006, after shooting and wounding three police officers involved in a no-knock entry, an 88-year-old woman was killed. An informant had erroneously identified the woman's home as the location of a drug dealer.

    "This woman lived in a bad neighborhood, in a bad house and that type of environment contributes to the fact that she is going to make the decisions she made," notes DiFranza."



    In June 2006, the U.S. Supreme Court released its ruling on the Hudson v. Michigan case stating that the Constitution does not require the government to forfeit evidence gathered under illegal no-knock searches. Citing increased professionalism by law enforcement and alternative deterrents, such as administrative discipline and civil lawsuits, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote on behalf of the 5-4 majority stating that the traditional punishment for police violation of the "knock-and-announce" rule — barring the use of seized evidence at trial — is no longer required.



    And now thekicker

    "We want to support the Fourth Amendment, but by the same token, you have to split the difference in law enforcement between protecting the Constitution and its application in the street," says Greg DiFranza, tactical enforcement unit coordinator for the Institute of Police Technology and Management. "For the most part, officers want to do it the right way, but by the same token, we see a different danger side than the people who actually draft and sign these warrants."



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    No shyte it's dangerous... Shouldn't that be a clue that it's not worthwhile, or even right?



    Lots of bad guys get taken down this way... sure... But that's no reason toallow theconsequences for making a mistake or un-constitutionalimposition to be any less grave.

    How much more like 1930's-40's Germany should this country be allowed to go?

    Shouldthe will/authority of law-enforcement hold sway over the rights of the people?

    Who defines 'freedom' and 'liberty'? I sure don't want it to be the government!

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    The end doesn't justify the means. They have violated the Constitution and are traitors. Enemies of the state. Period.

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    BobCav wrote:
    The end doesn't justify the means. They have violated the Constitution and are traitors. Enemies of the state. Period.
    +100.....Guess they didn't read the definition of "Due Process"

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    Sorry, my head just exploded. Forgot the duct tape.

    The simplest thing might be to print off the article and mail it to the Supreme Court justices. Include corrections to the story about the 88 yr-old woman.

    Interesting how the article does include info about not pointing the gun at fellow officers. If I recall, the evidence pointed the woman notshooting the police, but the police shooting each other.

    So much for professionalism.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    BobCav wrote:
    The end doesn't justify the means. They have violated the Constitution and are traitors. Enemies of the state. Period.
    Absolutely.

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    Nauseating... absolutely nauseating.

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    Our founding fathers would be disgusted by the current state of America, everything they risked so much to establish and fought to protect is under attack. Hopefully americans respond to these threats to freedom before our only choice becomes one of last resort.



    UNRELATED, WELL SORT OF

    Foreign LEO knocks out old lady-

    http://www.break.com/index/cop-knock...-old-lady.html

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    Lack of duct tape:



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    UNRELATED BUT FUNNY

    StupidPOLICE woman crashes confiscated bike-

    http://www.break.com/index/cop_crash..._dirtbike.html

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    10987654321 wrote:
    UNRELATED BUT FUNNY

    StupidPOLICE woman crashes confiscated bike-

    http://www.break.com/index/cop_crash..._dirtbike.html
    I'm the only one here qualified to handle a motorbike inside an office...whoa!

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    UNRELATED BUT RELAVENT TO DISCUSSION-

    Cop rams suspect twice with his cruiser to stop him, I wonder if this is standard procedure.

    http://www.break.com/index/bustedbycops.html

    COP ACTS SILLY IN CONVIENIENCE STORE

    http://www.break.com/index/officerdance.html

    HOW TO NOT GET YOUR ASS BEAT BY POLICE, BY CHRIS ROCK

    http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=213870

    COP BRAWLS WITH CIVILIAN IN SPAIN

    http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=276097


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    So, is the official legal way to deal with home invasions now to welcome the invaders and, only after searching them for badges to confirm that they are not LEOs, proceed to defend your home?

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    10987654321 wrote:
    UNRELATED BUT RELAVENT TO DISCUSSION-

    Cop rams suspect twice with his cruiser to stop him, I wonder if this is standard procedure.

    http://www.break.com/index/bustedbycops.html
    I don't have a problem with this one. The individual is brandishing a knife. They could have just shot him.


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