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VAopencarry

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The difference, I can post I want to kill meat inspectors but if I don't kill meat inspectors...........

The cops and prosecutor can scream all day long, "He posted on the internet he was going to kill meat inspectors" but if I don't kill meat inspectors, what's the crime.
 

Doug Huffman

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Hawkflyer wrote:
openryan wrote:
Shouldn't all of these be common sense/knowledge.
SNIP...

Well yes, but "common sense" is frequently neither.
The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA KMA$$
 

BobCav

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Doesn't pre-meditation require more than just a statement, but a certain measure of actual planning?

I can sit here all day and tell everyone that me and my rifles are ready to defend America again and I'm not worried about that one bit. I'm technically only "transferred to the Fleet Reserve" for the next 7 years, not actually retired from the Navy and as such, I'm also still bound by the Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). I had memorized my Oath of Enlistment many years ago, and while I'm not subject to orders, I am still being paid a retainer by the Navy and therefore can still fulfill part of my obligation to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
 

markand

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When you hit the delete button on the PC, it only removes the first letter of the file name, which tells the PC that the file is deleted and in your wastebasket. The file is still there until the sectors on the drive are overwritten by another file. Even so, some years ago, I was advised that a certain government agency had the ability to take a hard drive or tape backup that had been erased and overwritten 14 times and still recover data from the first write. I suspect it is very expensive and labor intensive to do this and conversations with police lead me to believe that this capability isn't routinely used by law enforcement.

There are software products that wipe deleted files from your hard drive in a manner that makes them basically impossible to recover. Even if you don't need to evade prosecution or the guys in the black helicopters, these programs are good for keeping your hard drive clean, removing unwanted cookies, and temporary files that Windows does a poor job sometimes of removing when they are no longer needed. Cleanup is one such product: http://www.stevengould.org/software/cleanup/. From a privacy standpoint, you should keep your hard drive clean.

With regard to "wardriving" I would definately recommend securing your wireless network. While I have never tried this myself, I once overheard somebody at a trade show tell another that if he wanted to download copywrited movies or music, he would simply fire up his laptop, drive around until he found an unsecured network, download the files to that computer and then copy it to his laptop. If the copywrite police ever tracked that download and filed suit against the downloader, they would be going after the unfortunate owner of the unsecured network, not him. I presume the same thing can be done with porn, kiddie porn or other unsavory stuff.
 

LEO 229

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There isa secret area in the windows software where data is stored but I have never seen it. Only told about it by the computer forensics guys.

Some people think defraging will take case of deleted data. Defraging your drive does nothing to destroy the deleted data.

Smacking the hard drive with a hammer does not work either. The only way to be sure the data cannot be retrieved is to destroy all the hard drive platters. It is possible to remove the platters from a damaged hard drive case and put them into another working case. All the sectors can be viewed and searched.

Even encryption is not 100% since the original document is displayed openly on the computer screen. If you do not have enough memory... programs and documents running are SAVED to the hard drive to clear out memory space so other active applications can run.

Since they are saved and deleted by windows.... this is data on your drive you did not even know about.

So..... if you really want to protect yourself.... don't do things you do not want others to know about. :p
 

Collier4385

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Being a Macuser, I use FileVault. We have a Windows PC which I do care to use except for gaming. If the laptop is stolen, all the information on it is sealed away. AES 128 is overkill just for personal use, but its there, so why not use it? The best thing is to be careful with your posting, and don't do anything illegal!
 

molonlabetn

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Yep... in this day and age, it's pretty stupid to express the desire to do something illegal.

But, there's a difference between illegal and controversial... This site is dedicated to the expression of a controversial subject, naturally some people think that others' opinions are inappropriate.

I'm happy as long as noone promotes (orfalsely accuses others of)illegal activity or personal attacks.
 

cato

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Members at calguns.net have embarrassed the the CA DOJ several times in regard toDOJ's interpretation and enforcement of CA assault weapon laws. The California DOJ now monitor calguns.net. This was discovered through FOIA requests by calgun.net members.

If we think that this board is not monitored by all levels of Gov. and our political enemieswe are fooling ourselves.

There is a case in CA where a student who was active at school on 2A issues also posed with AW looking rifles on an internet site. His political enemies reported the web site to the Sheriff's detectives for investigation. Based on the photos (post VaTech)they were granted a search warrant. He had made no threats against anyone but they misapplied CA's AW laws and charged him with 12 felonies and held him in county jail for three weeks on $500,000 bail (even calling semi-auto 1919 brownings machine guns!) The machine gun charges were not filed, leaving 6 felony counts to defend against. I think he will prevail in the end but the DA appears to be takingthis to jury trial to save face.

Here's a link: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=59424

"Corwin, 23, was arrested last month after students and faculty alerted authorities to pictures of Corwin holding and firing multiple firearms on a Web site...."

I don't think it will betoo long before we seewords replacingpictures in the above sentence in regard to someone's arrest especially if those words include a reference to killing.
 

Hawkflyer

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I agree that it is important for more reasonable people on this or any other forum to challenge radical postings that advocate illegal behaviors. I have done so, I have seen HankT do so. I know BobCav has, LEO has and many others too numerous to name. We have a duty to the forum and it's owners to police this kind of thing.

Not only is it important to protect the forum, but a case could be made that if you read such a post, and do not disavow it, that you agree with it.

In the Meat inspector case I mentioned above, e-mails were taken in as evidence of premeditation. There were also Blog entries, and forum posts entered into the record.

Laettner also showed jurors a copy of an e-mail Alexander sent to a friend in which he called the inspectors "government slimeballs" and said he "almost took out my machine gun and blasted these four losers, but I kept my cool as always because a smart dog attacks from the rear."

While these were all taken of of any context, they were very much self supporting. But imagine a single joke comment taken out of context and how it might be used is a courtroom.

Regards
 

Scheetz

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Doesnt this go along with the people who post on Myspace and what not that they are going to kill themselves or kill a said person??


I know they have pulled Myspace records on people. They are also now saving all Myspace and blog entries to HDDS so when you apply for a job they can see what you are like outside of the interview. Its smart thinking.
 

tarzan1888

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Scheetz wrote:
Doesnt this go along with the people who post on Myspace and what not that they are going to kill themselves or kill a said person??


I know they have pulled Myspace records on people. They are also now saving all Myspace and blog entries to HDDS so when you apply for a job they can see what you are like outside of the interview. Its smart thinking.
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