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    Without warning, without a warrant, without probable cause this cop busts in through a closed door to bust a college party in Denton Texas. Im no expert at the law but Im pretty sure this is illegal and this cop should be reprimanded if not fired.

    http://www.break.com/index/cop-tresp...ege-party.html


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    It is a possibility he is not a real police officer but his behaviour doesnt seem far fetched considering the ignorance of the law SOMEpolice exibit.

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    I not going to defend his (mis) demeanor/language, but so long as he has probable cause to believe a crime is being committed in his presents(loud party complaint andsome code prohibiting the activity) he can force entryto detain/warn/cite/arrest the offenders provided he has evidence of a crime in progress (this evidence can be gathered by the officer's sences (sight, sound, smell, etc...). A crime in progress is an exemption to the 4th Amendment. Sorry no cite to back up my post. I'll look it up later...got to run...and break up a party!!!

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    cato wrote:
    ted in his presents (loud party complaint andsome code prohibiting the activity) he can force entryto detain/warn/cite/arrest the offenders provided he has evidence of a crime in progress...
    Isn't that only for felonies?



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    Great video. Another ID Nazi.


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    Pa. Patriot wrote:
    cato wrote:
    ted in his presents (loud party complaint andsome code prohibiting the activity) he can force entryto detain/warn/cite/arrest the offenders provided he has evidence of a crime in progress...
    Isn't that only for felonies?



    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/constitution/html/amdt4.html

    Detention Short of Arrest: Stop-and-Frisk.--Arrests are subject
    to the requirements of the Fourth Amendment, but the courts have
    followed the common law in upholding the right of police officers to
    take a person into custody without a warrant if they have probable cause
    to believe that the person to be arrested has committed a felony or
    has
    committed a misdemeanor in their presence
    .\6\ The probable cause is, of
    course, the same standard required to be met in the issuance of an
    arrest warrant, and must be satisfied by conditions existing prior to
    the policeman's stop, what is discovered thereafter not sufficing to
    establish retroactively reasonable cause.\7\ There are, however,
    instances when a policeman's suspicions will have been aroused by
    someone's conduct or manner, but probable cause for placing such a
    person under arrest will be lacking.\8\ In Terry v. Ohio,\9\ the Court
    almost unanimously approved an on-the-street investigation by a police
    officer which involved ``patting down'' the subject of the investigation
    for weapons.

    \6\United States v. Watson, 423 U.S. 411 (1976). See supra,
    p.1209.
    \7\Henry v. United States, 361 U.S. 98 (1959); Johnson v. United
    States, 333 U.S. 10, 16-17 (1948); Sibron v. New York, 392 U.S. 40, 62-
    63 (1968).
    \8\``The police may not arrest upon mere suspicion but only on
    `probable cause.''' Mallory v. United States, 354 U.S. 449, 454 (1957).
    \9\392 U.S. 1 (1968). Only Justice Douglas dissented. Id. at 35.




    I'm going to back away from my statement that the officer can make a forced entry without a warrant at the party. It (the loud party) doesn't appear tohave an exigent circumstance (suspect escaping, destroying evidence, or life in danger) so I'm leaning in favor of needing a warrant. Unlessthe failure to identify the suspect and arrest him qualifies as an exigent circumstance.



    Application of this balancing test, because of the Court's
    weighing in of law enforcement investigative needs\49\ and the Court's
    subjective evaluation of privacy needs, has led to the creation of a
    two-tier or sliding-tier scale of privacy interests. The privacy test
    was originally designed to permit a determination that a Fourth
    Amendment protected interest had been invaded.\50\ If it had been, then
    ordinarily a warrant was required, subject only to the narrowly defined
    exceptions, and the scope of the search under those exceptions was
    ``strictly tied to and justified by the circumstances which rendered its
    initiation permissible.''\51\ But the Court now uses the test to
    determine whether the interest invaded is important or persuasive enough
    so that a warrant is required to justify it;\52\ if the individual has a
    lesser expectation of privacy, then the invasion may be justified,
    absent a warrant, by the reasonableness of the intrusion.\53\ Exceptions
    to the warrant requirement are no

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    longer evaluated solely by the justifications for the exception, e.g.,
    exigent circumstances, and the scope of the search is no longer tied to
    and limited by the justification for the exception.\54\ The result has
    been a considerable expansion, beyond what existed prior to Katz, of the
    power of police and other authorities to conduct searches.

    \49\E.g., Robbins v. California, 453 U.S. 420, 429, 433-34
    (1981) (Justice Powell concurring), quoted approvingly in United States
    v. Ross, 456 U.S. 798, 815-16 & n.21 (1982).
    \50\Katz v. United States, 389 U. S. 347, 351-52 (1967).
    \51\Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 19 (1968).
    \52\The prime example is the home, so that for entries either to
    search or to arrest, ``the Fourth Amendment has drawn a firm line at the
    entrance to the house. Absent exigent circumstances, that threshold may
    not reasonably be crossed without a warrant.'' Payton v. New York, 445
    U.S. 573, 590 (1980); Steagald v. United States, 451 U.S. 204, 212
    (1981). And see Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U.S. 385 (1978).






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    HankT wrote:
    Pa. Patriot wrote:
    Great video. Another ID Nazi.
    Another?

    You wouldn't be referring to our friendly neighborhood LEO, would ya?

    "Don't ask, don't tell" is my policy

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    HankT wrote:
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    It is a possibility he is not a real police officer but his behaviour doesnt seem far fetched considering the ignorance of the law SOMEpolice exibit.
    Um, no.

    If it is a fake officer or a fake video, then the thing is useless as an example of anything other than fake video making.

    The video looks real to me, so I commented on it. But if it were found to be a gag, thenit would be a waste of time to point to it for they reason you cite. One can't use a fake video to support a real point...



    Tawana Brawley?




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    longwatch wrote: WOW!! That leaves me speachless.
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Wow, what a piece of garbage.

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    longwatch wrote: It's gone now. Got a liveleak link or something?

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    grishnav wrote:
    longwatch wrote: It's gone now. Got a liveleak link or something?
    Dude, this thread is over a year old...I highly doubt anybody has anything on it.

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    Holy crap. I thought I was looking at either the "popular" or "recent" page, but I was actually looking at a list of search results. Oopsie!

    Sorry folks, nothing to see here, move along...

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    Since no one posted it...

    If you have a party make sure you keep the doors locked at all times!

    In most states it's not a crime for a LEO to walk in a door if it's "open". In many states that means wide open, ajar or unlocked when responding to "9-1-1 call"... even if that call is only about loud music.

    Remember you can always tell them no they can't come in, but you have to wait until they feel like leaving before they will go.

    NEVER leave the doors open or unlocked. EVER!

    Don't think so? Leave one round of ammo in the open and see if an anti-gun cop won't "clear the house" for his safety and "run the numbers" on every gun there... meanwhile the hours tick by and s/he's getting paid overtime to play JBT.

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