Allen
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joeroket wrote:
But that topic, would be for another thread.
Too many (including the GOA) are referrencing McCathy's original bill, S. 297. This was a truly draconian bill, similar to the one above (in its actions).
After the VT massecre, McCarthys bill looked as if it might gain momentum (and it was), so... The NRA stepped in and helped to write a new version. The new version completely rewrites the what, who and how of McCarthys older bill.
Politically, the gun grabbers can go home saying they passed legislation to deal with the mentally unstable, like Cho, while we get to see a NICS that will be better managed and won't simply include everyone who's ever been given a drug for depression or who has ever been to any kind of treatment for any psychiatric disorder.
1) S. 2640 specifies that you have to be committed, involuntarily, by a court. Not for observation, mind you.
2) It removes the names of some 87,000 veterans from the list, simply because they sought treatment (from the VA) for PTSD.
3) It prohibits (federal) governmental agencies from submitting names to the NICS list who have not been adjudicated as mentally defective.
4) It defines (by narrowing) what it means to be mentally defective insofar as who is to be included in the NICS.
5) It reserves to the States (by whatever vehicle the States choose) the power to remove the disability (and thus can't be defunded).
6) It specifies an appeal process for those that get denied by their State.
7) It allows the Congress to fund the States in complying with the mandates of the NICS laws.
8) It prevents the FBI from charging the States or the individual for using the database (currently, this is a rider to funding bills and must be passed every year).
None of the above is in the original S. 297, written by McCarthy.
joeroket wrote:
Then you haven't seen S. 1237: Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007, introduced on 04-26-2007 by Lautenberg but written by Gonzales! (But it ain't going nowhere. It was referred to the Judicial committee and isn't on it's calander to be heard.)This bill is the biggest piece of crap I have seen in a while.
But that topic, would be for another thread.
Too many (including the GOA) are referrencing McCathy's original bill, S. 297. This was a truly draconian bill, similar to the one above (in its actions).
After the VT massecre, McCarthys bill looked as if it might gain momentum (and it was), so... The NRA stepped in and helped to write a new version. The new version completely rewrites the what, who and how of McCarthys older bill.
Politically, the gun grabbers can go home saying they passed legislation to deal with the mentally unstable, like Cho, while we get to see a NICS that will be better managed and won't simply include everyone who's ever been given a drug for depression or who has ever been to any kind of treatment for any psychiatric disorder.
1) S. 2640 specifies that you have to be committed, involuntarily, by a court. Not for observation, mind you.
2) It removes the names of some 87,000 veterans from the list, simply because they sought treatment (from the VA) for PTSD.
3) It prohibits (federal) governmental agencies from submitting names to the NICS list who have not been adjudicated as mentally defective.
4) It defines (by narrowing) what it means to be mentally defective insofar as who is to be included in the NICS.
5) It reserves to the States (by whatever vehicle the States choose) the power to remove the disability (and thus can't be defunded).
6) It specifies an appeal process for those that get denied by their State.
7) It allows the Congress to fund the States in complying with the mandates of the NICS laws.
8) It prevents the FBI from charging the States or the individual for using the database (currently, this is a rider to funding bills and must be passed every year).
None of the above is in the original S. 297, written by McCarthy.