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    I understand that ccw is permited in Va State Parks. Is OC good to go?

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    Jason Rogers wrote:
    I understand that ccw is permited in Va State Parks. Is OC good to go?
    negative

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    KodiakISGOOD wrote:
    Jason Rogers wrote:
    I understand that ccw is permited in Va State Parks. Is OC good to go?
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    Thanks Kodiak. Any chance of Richmond altering this any time soon?

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    Mike S. said VCDL is working on this, either legislatively or by getting DGIF to chenge their regs, but I haven't heard back in a while.

    I tried to contact the board that writes the DGIF regs but they must have decided I don't deserve an answer...I need to find another way to contact someone in charge.

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    DGIF?

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    Department of Game and Inland Fisheries.

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    Similar topic....

    What about local parks?

    There's one right by the quarry near where I live in Harrisonburg.

    Actually, I think there's a Middle School behind it, as well.... What's the rule on getting close to a school on foot while OC'd?

    And for H'burg parks.... Specifically Westover Park.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    City, County etc. parks are OK for OC. Only State Parks require that you have a ccw and conceal.

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    Jason Rogers wrote:
    City, County etc. parks are OK for OC.* Only State Parks require that you have a ccw and conceal.
    I don't suppose you can site anything specific?

    We're having this discussion in the BBQ thread, actually....

    Especially the county parks part...
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    I know City and County parks OC is okay. It's the regional parks I can't find any SPECIFIC reference for.
    Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population. -Albert Einstein

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    Tess wrote:
    I know City and County parks OC is okay. It's the regional parks I can't find any SPECIFIC reference for.
    IMNAL - This is a tough one. No.Va Regional Park Authority was "born" from a 1950 act http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...+cod+15.2-5700. This doesn't tell us anything, really. It is a place to begin looking for info. I do not think that these "Regional Parks" are managed or operated by the state. It sounds like it is an agreement of contiguous municipalities to operate and fund these parks.

    This paragraph, contained in the premption codehas some meaning to our needs...
    "The provisions of this section applicable to a locality shall also apply to any authority or to a local governmental entity, including a department or agency, but not including any local or regional jail or juvenile detention facility."

    Here's the full text.
    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+15.2-915

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    Regional parks derive their authorityfromthe nearby counties and cities, as far as I know, and do not have the authority to ban guns, period. Mike S. and PVC agreed with me.

    Occoquan Regional Park is run by the NVRPA and has illegal no guns signs on one of the hiking trails. I have sent communications telling them they need to remove the signs, and the answer I got back acknoweldged that my assertion of the preemption law was correct, but they are dragging their feet as usual.

    Yesterday I OC'd there while riding my bike, and a park employee drove by in one of those little John Deere jobs and just waved to me. No helicopters this time.

    I need to go back up that trail and see if the signs are gone, yet. Maybe tomorrow or the next day.

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    If they are illegal signs, would you be justified in volunteering your time to remove them?
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    If you mean taking them down on my own initiative, no. This may be construed as vandalism (the signs are public property), and besides, we want to make the authorities take them down. We pay them to do the right things with our parks. I'm not gonna hire a lawn mower guy and then pay him to sit on my porch and watch me mow the lawn, why would I do it with a smug, self-important park jerk?

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    So you can stack them in front of his ranger cabin and proceed to violate the "No Open Fires" rule?
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Jason Rogers wrote:
    I understand that ccw is permited in Va State Parks. Is OC good to go?
    You may OC where hunting is allowed (time & Place), even if you are not hunting - that is it.

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