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    I just launched a new site specifically for PA open carry information:
    www.paopencarry.org

    The purpose is as I posted on the front page:
    paopencarry.org was founded to serve as a repository of information relating to the practice of openly carrying a firearm in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania. It is our hope that this web site will help educate Pennsylvania citizens, law enforcement and politicians on the laws pertaining to open carry as well as provide those interested with general information regarding open carry such as news articles, holster reviews and on the street reports (good and bad) of other citizen's experiences while openly carrying their firearms in Pennsylvania.
    As of now there is not a lot of content. I am working on it.
    I AM posting this here now to solicit ideas.

    Example. I posted 20 Q&A questions on the Q&A page but am still working on the answers. I have my answers basically worked out in my head and am in the process of putting them down on paper. You'll notice a couple of the Q's have a little humor slant to them.
    I would LOVE to hear everyones suggestions for these answers. As well as for anythinng site related.


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    Very cool PA Patriot.

    I'm glad that opencarry.org is spawning state specific sites to tackle the unique challenges of some states (PA, with it's woeful training requirements of the cops on gun carrying by civilians). PAOpenCarry.org, Pacific Northwest Open Carry Group, etc etc.

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    Lonnie Wilson wrote:
    Very cool PA Patriot.

    I'm glad that opencarry.org is spawning state specific sites to tackle the unique challenges of some states (PA, with it's woeful training requirements of the cops on gun carrying by civilians). PAOpenCarry.org, Pacific Northwest Open Carry Group, etc etc.
    I second that "very cool" and up the bid by a "very well done"!
    I'd like to see a site like this for Alabamians as well and am in the process of collecting data "as we speak".....I think answers to most of your questions can be found right here on OCDO in some of the other threads.....best of luck!

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    Best wishes for success!

    Could I suggest that you expand the scope just a bit to include concealed carry?

    OC and CC are really just two sub-headings of the same topic:defensive carry. As opposed to say sporting carry (hunting).

    I travel to PA to visit family from time to time and it would be nice to have a second source for quick access to up to date OC and CC statutes and case law.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Citizen wrote:
    Could I suggest that you expand the scope just a bit to include concealed carry?

    OC and CC are really just two sub-headings of the same topic:defensive carry. As opposed to say sporting carry (hunting).
    While I see your point, it's much more clean-cut in terms of concealed carry. If you want to CC in PA, you need a PA permit or a permit from a reciprocal state. That's it, pretty much. And when you CC, you don't get treated as a criminal/terrorist/psychopath by the local LEOs and sheeple. You also don't have to worry about getting falsly arrested as long as you have that permit.

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    it's much more clean-cut in terms of concealed carry. If you want to CC in PA, you need a PA permit or a permit from a reciprocal state. That's it, pretty much.
    Not really - "any" state's CHP works to carry in vehicles, openly, or concealed, in PA.



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    Thanks all, for the comments.


    Citizen wrote:
    ...Could I suggest that you expand the scope just a bit to include concealed carry?
    Good idea, to which I have thought about.

    The way it is now I feel the primary need is for open carry info as CC info is oretty well available from sites like carry.org, etc.
    Add to that the fact I have very little time to work on this project as it is
    After I get the OC content in I will definately work on a CC section. One stop shopping


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    Glad to see I am not the only PA resident who prefers OC. I am new to Chester County, a refugee from the PRNJ. Just curious if you, or anyone else has any OC stories in PA since I have not seen anyone OC. I would love to but even though I know it's 100% legal, I m a bit apprehensive. Any advise/experiences would help. Thanks in advance.

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    There are a few stories in the Pennsylvania section, including mine:
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/2854.html


    That thread is also posted at PFOA, With more commentary/replies:
    http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...kes-barre.html


    Other POFA OC journal posts:
    http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...eferrerid=2476

    http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...ield-co-s.html

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    Another uneventful morning OC'ing - Walked the Radnor trail with my wife and dog, stopped in Wawa for coffee - not even a sideways glance - I don't think people even noticed today

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    lprgcFrank wrote:
    Another uneventful morning OC'ing - Walked the Radnor trail with my wife and dog, stopped in Wawa for coffee - not even a sideways glance - I don't think people even noticed today
    Oh some folks likely noticed - and "uneventful" is exaclty what we want people to see - just 'nother citizen goin' 'bout his business.

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    Major updates posted tonight.

    www.paopencarry.org

    Let me know what you think!


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    From what I can see not to shabby, still a work in progress I presume.

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    longwatch wrote:
    ... still a work in progress I presume.
    Most definitely. Probably always will be


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    lprgcFrank wrote:
    Another uneventful morning OC'ing - Walked the Radnor trail with my wife and dog, stopped in Wawa for coffee - not even a sideways glance - I don't think people even noticed today
    Good news, thanks for the report


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    :celebrateI applaud your attempt at edgucated! Knowledge unshared is no Knowledge at all!

    Q&A is a great idea! Maybe a section on proper holsters for OC and techniques for being prepared and aware.

    Also just a thought. Maybe a card sized fact sheet that you could print out and carry in your wallet for the LEO's to see if and when you get questioned about your rights. Something with just the facts and maybe website addresses.

    And not a forum but a testimamoanial?(spelling) Page for people who have OC'ed in their areas.

    Just some thoughts.



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    WhiteFeather wrote:
    :celebrateI applaud your attempt at edgucated! Knowledge unshared is no Knowledge at all!

    Q&A is a great idea! Maybe a section on proper holsters for OC and techniques for being prepared and aware.

    Also just a thought. Maybe a card sized fact sheet that you could print out and carry in your wallet for the LEO's to see if and when you get questioned about your rights. Something with just the facts and maybe website addresses.

    And not a forum but a testimamoanial?(spelling) Page for people who have OC'ed in their areas.

    Just some thoughts.

    First, thanks for the comments and kind words.
    Second, you have some great ideas.
    After I finish the Q&A I will post some editorial type (my opinions) sections on holsters, where to get training, retention, etc.
    The pocket card is a good idea too. I was thinking of modifying the Ohio Or Virginia "No guns = No $" to add to the site. Should be easy to make a card for statutes (maybe a folded type of double business card)

    I really like the testimonials or stories page. I can put up a few, sorted by town and have a submission form on the page that people can submit their own. I will then just add them manually with the next update.


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    PaPatriot,

    Can I modify your flyer for use in Louisiana?

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    preacher wrote:

    PaPatriot,

    Can I modify your flyer for use in Louisiana?
    Absolutely.
    Actually, it is BobCav's flyer... I modified it for PA

    He, or myself can hook you up with the MS Publisher file so you can make your LA version.
    Send me a PM w/your email and I'll get it to you post haste.

    PS: It's about 155KB in size


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    Guys, gals, I'm working on the Q@A section of the site tonight (as in right now)
    I could use some input...
    Are the questions OK?
    Any suggestions for the answers would be GREATLY appreciated. I have my own answers in my head but I like to include other thoughts I might not have thought of...


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    under links, the Pa UFA, could you link to the actual Pa laws that were recently put online instead of the acspla page that it's linked too now? Maybe just me but i take it a little more serious when it's a state sponserd site.



    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI...18/00.061..HTM

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    That is am excellent suggestion. I will do that next update. Thanks.


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    Questions:

    Must I notify a police officer I am armed? During a foot encounter? During a traffic stop?

    Must I identify myself to police if asked?

    Must I show ID if requested by police?

    Where can I look up PA case law regarding 4th Amendment immunities from unreasonablesearches and seizures?

    Where am I prohibited fromcarrying by State Law?


    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    I am not a lawyer...answers embeded below

    Citizen wrote:
    Questions:

    Must I notify a police officer I am armed? During a foot encounter? During a traffic stop?
    >>>Nope not a requirement - but use your best judgement. If liklely to be found out (like I have to reach to the glove box to get my registration and the butt of my 1911 will be exposed as I reach across the console fo the car- I inform

    Must I identify myself to police if asked?
    >>>Yes

    Must I show ID if requested by police?
    >>>Not positive - but I belive that you do not have to show ID if you are on foot - just provide information that identifies you. If operating a motor vehicle - they yes you must provide ID.

    Where can I look up PA case law regarding 4th Amendment immunities from unreasonablesearches and seizures?
    >>>Not sure

    Where am I prohibited fromcarrying by State Law?
    >>>Courthouses and federal government property

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    Citizen wrote:
    Must I notify a police officer I am armed? During a foot encounter? During a traffic stop?
    Not trying to be a smartass or anything, but if you're OCing, shouldn't it, by definition, be obvious that you are armed?

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