Training Bulletins

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I am a former WA resident, and hope to return in a few years. I was hoping that some of you fellow OC'ers could scan and post any of the training bulletins you could get your hands on.

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There's a couple in a nicely done PDF at the bottom of this thread: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum55/1471.html

Also, go to the main page, go to Washington and check the Official Documents section. Ignore the KCSO one, as Lonnie has clarified that it isn't in circulation yet with that department, but the Federal Way one is there for download.

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just_a_car wrote:

There's a couple in a nicely done PDF at the bottom of this thread: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum55/1471.html

Also, go to the main page, go to Washington and check the Official Documents section. Ignore the KCSO one, as Lonnie has clarified that it isn't in circulation yet with that department, but the Federal Way one is there for download.

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They are all also available at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pnwopencarry/files/

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I think we should try to get a flyer together like Bob has done with Virginia Gun laws. Just throwing it out there, it'd be nice to have something small with all the pertaining laws about OC in Washington.

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Sounds like you just volunteered.

Got a link to a printable version of the Virgina brochure?

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My wife has been working on a flyer and we would be willing to create one for the group. If someone can provide a link to the VA brochure that might help.

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BobCav, You know where we can get ahold of it?

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VA flyer:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum61/3356.html

Bob can get you the MS pub file to edit. Thats exactly what I did for PA:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/3390.html

Also, here is another training memo specifically for mailing to PD's. More detailed than the flyer. This one is Lonnie's version (originally for WA state) modified for PA:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/2845.html

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Here's my contribution:

http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/firearms_laws_washington.pdf

With this and the training bulletin one you should be set (assuming you can read the small type...)

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John, I like it and I did print a copy of it out. The only gripe that I have is that it is more for concealed carried and not open carry. Having a few more laws such RCW 9.41.70 would be awesome. Any other imput?

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I've collected the training bulletins that WashingtonCeasefire got copies of into a companion document for making wallet pamphlets...

http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/open_carry_training_bulletins_washington.pdf

Comments solicited.

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G27 wrote:

John, I like it and I did print a copy of it out. The only gripe that I have is that it is more for concealed carried and not open carry. Having a few more laws such RCW 9.41.70 would be awesome. Any other imput?

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There are more laws regarding concealed carry, and 9.41.050 does affect Open Carry if, for example, you're wearing a jacket that may inadvertently temporarily obscure your sidearm. There are also cites of a bunch of laws that are relevant to both OC and CC: when the use of deadly force is justified, for example.

9.41.070 regards CPL application and renewal, and that will only be a concern every five years. Space on the pamplet is limited, is that really something you'd want to refer to that often away from your computer where you'd be able to look it up?

I just posted the one with the training bulletins; that one has space and 9.41.270 is more relevant to OC, so I think I'll add it to that... Consider them a matched set.

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Awesome, John! I will definitely print those out. Thanks for doing that.

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John Hardin wrote:

I've collected the training bulletins that WashingtonCeasefire got copies of into a companion document for making wallet pamphlets...

http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/open_carry_training_bulletins_washington.pdf

Comments solicited.

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but if joe (last hypothetical) is carrying OC in his car... then it being concealed shouldn't be a problem since he must have a permit anyway right?

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uncoolperson wrote:

John Hardin wrote:

I've collected the training bulletins that WashingtonCeasefire got copies of into a companion document for making wallet pamphlets...

http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/open_carry_training_bulletins_washington.pdf

Comments solicited.

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but if joe (last hypothetical) is carrying OC in his car... then it being concealed shouldn't be a problem since he must have a permit anyway right?

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You are correct. In the Kent training bulletin "Joe" would have been required to have had a CCP on him to carry a loaded weapon in the car. If he did not have a permit, then he would have indeed been in violation of 9.41.050 as the bulletin states.

(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

In fact, if he did not indeed have a permit, he might have been sited twice. Once for 1(a) violation, and once for 2(a) violation. If he had a permit, then he would be legal on both counts.

If he had a permit but did not have it on him, then he would be in violation of 9.41.050 1(b).