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    Hey guys, I've been lurking for a while. Had a couple questions.

    Whats the rule when you get pulled over by the cops and your carrying (cc or oc)? Are you supposed tell they right away or only if they ask? What about if you're out in public, at the mall or something, and for whatever reason a cop approaches you?

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    First off, I'm not a lawyer.

    That said:
    In WA, you do not have to declare that you are carrying, OC or CC to an officer unless they ask something to the effect of "Are there any weapons in the vehicle?" or "Do you have any weapons on you?"

    Nor do you have to hand over your CPL if you are concealing unless demanded to do so by someone if the law requires you to. RCW 9.41.050 (1)(b) states:


    "(b) Every licensee shall have his or her concealed pistol license in his or her immediate possession at all times that he or she is required by this section to have a concealed pistol license and shall display the same upon demand to any police officer or to any other person when and if required by law to do so. Any violation of this subsection (1)(b) shall be a class 1 civil infraction under chapter 7.80 RCW and shall be punished accordingly pursuant to chapter 7.80 RCW and the infraction rules for courts of limited jurisdiction."

    Now, the fact that it says "...and if required by law to do so." means to me that there may be some other law regarding when an officer or "other person" may lawfully demand to see your CPL. I'm not sure what that may be.
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    See Chapter Four, pages 15-17, WASHINGTON STATE GUN RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES

    Re: "Traffic Stop Etiquette"

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    Dave Workman wrote:
    See Chapter Four, pages 15-17, WASHINGTON STATE GUN RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES

    Re: "Traffic Stop Etiquette"
    LOL Ding Ding.

    Dave can you post the link to your site so I can pick one up from you.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    DrewGunner wrote:
    Hey guys, I've been lurking for a while. Had a couple questions.

    Whats the rule when you get pulled over by the cops and your carrying (cc or oc)? Are you supposed tell they right away or only if they ask? What about if you're out in public, at the mall or something, and for whatever reason a cop approaches you?
    You do not have a duty to inform. I would myself just as a matter of safety. Since you are required to have a CCP when in a vehicle with a loaded firearm, you will be required to show it to the officer if he requests it.

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    Welcome!


    A good book on just this subject is "You and the Police" by Boston T.Party (of "Boston's Gun Bible" fame)
    Amazon has it for under $9

    I HIGHLY recommend this book!


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    joeroket wrote:
    Dave Workman wrote:
    See Chapter Four, pages 15-17, WASHINGTON STATE GUN RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES

    Re: "Traffic Stop Etiquette"
    LOL Ding Ding.

    Dave can you post the link to your site so I can pick one up from you.
    http://www.saf.org/default.asp?btitl...amp;p=booklist



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    Thx xpun8.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

    "though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for I know that you are by my side" Glock 23:40

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    Also every reputable gun store in WA also carries the booklet .

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    Out of respect to the LEO I would inform him. But that's just me.

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    Hey, thanks guys.

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    G27 wrote:
    Out of respect to the LEO I would inform him. But that's just me.
    I do the same. I'd rather he knew than "found out". I'm no expert, but I imagine that's one of the things they don't like finding on their own. I usually hand over my CPL with my DL, registrationand insurance.

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    Can the book be ordered online? All I see is "call to order." I'm in Iraq and the phone is not my best means of communication.
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    thebastidge wrote:
    Can the book be ordered online? All I see is "call to order." I'm in Iraq and the phone is not my best means of communication.
    Looks like there's an online order form here:

    https://trout.secure-host.com/gunlaws/secureorder.htm

    If that doesn't work, PM me with your FPO or APO, unit, all the stuff that will get it to you, and I'll get one to you somehow.

    Thanks for serving!

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    THanks, but I'm not military any more- I'm a contractor now. I'll try the link.
    Be prepared. Be very prepared.

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    Contractor or "contractor"?

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    thebastidge wrote:
    Can the book be ordered online? All I see is "call to order." I'm in Iraq and the phone is not my best means of communication.

    Holy smokes.. That's "WASHINGTON STATE GUN RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES" not BAGHDAD GUN RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES!

    order one through danddgunleather@centurytel.net

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    [Dave can you post the link to your site so I can pick one up from you.
    Go you one better than that. If you hit the Puyallup gun show Saturday, I'll be there autographing books at the Second Amendment Foundation table.

    Otherwise, order through:

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    $10.95 plus $4.50 to cover sales tax, shipping & handling

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    Dave Workman wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    [Dave can you post the link to your site so I can pick one up from you.
    Go you one better than that. If you hit the Puyallup gun show Saturday, I'll be there autographing books at the Second Amendment Foundation table.

    Otherwise, order through:

    D&D ENTERPRISES
    P.O. Box 1638
    North Bend, WA 98045

    $10.95 plus $4.50 to cover sales tax, shipping & handling
    I live to far away to go but I will be sending you the money for one.

    What kind of payment do you prefer? I want to send what is best for you.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:

    $10.95 plus $4.50 to cover sales tax, shipping & handling
    I live to far away to go but I will be sending you the money for one.

    What kind of payment do you prefer? I want to send what is best for you.
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    I prefer money... :-)

    A check will do.

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    I have a personal policy of not liking to look down the wrong end of a barrel in the hands of a nervous and scared cop. To that end, I always inform the officer as he arrives at my window, that; "I have a Concealed Weapons Permit and that I am carrying." I do this with both hands on the steering wheel where the officer can see them. In the last 15 years or so, the response has pretty much been "Where are you carrying it and don't reach your hand there." Before the copsseemed to think if you had a gun you needed to be gotten out of the car, relieved of your weapon and have it unloaded. But my not liking nervous cops with guns pointed at me, might seem unreasonable to you.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    I have a personal policy of not liking to look down the wrong end of a barrel in the hands of a nervous and scared cop. To that end, I always inform the officer as he arrives at my window, that; "I have a Concealed Weapons Permit and that I am carrying." I do this with both hands on the steering wheel where the officer can see them. In the last 15 years or so, the response has pretty much been "Where are you carrying it and don't reach your hand there." Before the copsseemed to think if you had a gun you needed to be gotten out of the car, relieved of your weapon and have it unloaded. But my not liking nervous cops with guns pointed at me, might seem unreasonable to you.
    Seems completely reasonable to me. Myself though I just prefer to obey traffic laws and not get pulled over.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

    "though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for I know that you are by my side" Glock 23:40

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    I have a personal policy of not liking to look down the wrong end of a barrel in the hands of a nervous and scared cop. To that end, I always inform the officer as he arrives at my window, that; "I have a Concealed Weapons Permit and that I am carrying." I do this with both hands on the steering wheel where the officer can see them. In the last 15 years or so, the response has pretty much been "Where are you carrying it and don't reach your hand there." Before the copsseemed to think if you had a gun you needed to be gotten out of the car, relieved of your weapon and have it unloaded. But my not liking nervous cops with guns pointed at me, might seem unreasonable to you.
    Same policy I'vegone by... I couple weeks ago I got pulled over, I immediately handed him my CWP and DL (CWP on top), he look at it for a couple seconds and asked "what is this?", "Thats my concealed weapons permit", "Why did you give it to me?", "I'm carrying a fireman, thought you might want to know". He looks a me for a sec, "ya, i don't care." And he let me off with a warning !

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    I agree that handing the officer both cards at once is a good policy - and I like it because I can see it making it more likely that you get waved off with a warning for the original offense.

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