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    I was OCing on the way to the range yesterday and stopped by WalMart to buy a few extra rounds. The guy (think stereotypical Walmart employee) carded me and stated I needed to be 21 to purchase.

    This is the first time this has ever happened to me and I've been buying ammo since 13 or so, so I was legitamitely surprised. I was in a hurry so I didn't put up a fuss. I just blatantly rested my hand on my gun while he rung me up. :P

    So uh, first time I've heard about this min age to purchase ammo. What's the regs in VA?

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    quick google search (dunno how accurate it is):
    http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0203.htm

    Does federal law place any age restriction on ammunition sellers and purchasers?

    Under federal law, it is illegal to sell (1) long gun ammunition to anyone under age 18 and (2) handgun ammunition to anyone under age 21 (18 USC 922(b)(1), 27 CFR 478. 99(b)). According to BATF, a licensee may sell interchangeable ammunition such as a . 22 cal. rimfire to a person less than age 21 (but age 18 or older) if the dealer is satisfied that the ammunition is for use in a rifle. If the ammunition is intended for use in a handgun, the 21-year-old minimum age requirement applies.


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    guess he was right, though I've never tried purchasing ammo when I was younger...

    18 USC 922:
    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...2----000-.html

    27 CFR 478.99
    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...7cfr478.99.htm
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    Wow. Thanks.

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    nickerj1 wrote:
    SNIP I just blatantly rested my hand on my gun while he rung me up. :P
    ??????

    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. (Because that is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--for each other and everybody else--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.)

    Equality and consent of the governed: We're all equal. How can another legitimately govern me without my express consent?

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    I put my hands on my hips a lot when I OC and am standing around. When I do so my right hand rests on the middle of my holster, right underneath the grip.

    It was my way of saying 'Are you kidding me?'

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    Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

    You might avoid provocative actions in public. I can imagine some easily scared sheep thinking that you are making a threat. Then you have to go to the trouble of getting the security tapes to prove to the police you weren't

    Best to not touch you firearm in public. Best to learn a new place to rest your hands. If its any help, in his book, No Second Place Winner, famed gun handler and Border Patrol Agent Bill Jordan points out that it stretches the belt and holster (written back when holsters were all leather.)
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. (Because that is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--for each other and everybody else--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.)

    Equality and consent of the governed: We're all equal. How can another legitimately govern me without my express consent?

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    When i was 19 and in FL I went to a gunshop to buy ammo for a friends pistol, which was a .22, we were going to do some plinking. The owner asked if it was for a pistol or rifle. I said for a pistol and he asked for ID. Since i was only 19 i couldnt buy it because i told him it was for a pistol instead of rifle. So next time you might just want to say it is for a rifle unless it is a pistol only caliber.

    just my .02

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    I remember when I was a youngster... I could not buy .22 ammo and had to ask my uncle to get it for me. This was the one and only time I ever met him too.

    I guess I was probably 12 at the time so it was obvious I was too young.

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    So does that just apply to FFL dealers? Like, can I buy pistol ammo in a private sale, similar to how I bought my handgun?

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    mercutio545 wrote:
    So does that just apply to FFL dealers? Like, can I buy pistol ammo in a private sale, similar to how I bought my handgun?
    To my knowledge, yes.

    27 CFR 478.99
    A licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector shall not sell or deliver (1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector knows or has reasonable
    cause to believe is less than 18 years of age, and, if the firearm, orammunition, is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than 21 years of age....

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    I remember when I was a youngster...* I could not buy .22 ammo and had to ask my uncle to get it for me. This was the one and only time I ever met him too.

    I guess I was probably 12 at the time so it was obvious I was too young.
    What's the statute of limitations on arranging a straw purchase for ammo? *snicker*
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    LEO 229 wrote:
    I remember when I was a youngster... I could not buy .22 ammo and had to ask my uncle to get it for me. This was the one and only time I ever met him too.

    I guess I was probably 12 at the time so it was obvious I was too young.
    What's the statute of limitations on arranging a straw purchase for ammo? *snicker*
    Since it was 28 years ago and in another state.... I am not worried about my Uncle.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    I remember when I was a youngster...* I could not buy .22 ammo and had to ask my uncle to get it for me. This was the one and only time I ever met him too.

    I guess I was probably 12 at the time so it was obvious I was too young.
    In the 1960's there was a time when all ammo purchases were recorded, AND required ID. I am not certain when this requirement was lifted, but for a long time it was impossible to buy ammo without filling out the forms. Oddly enough ammo components were not restricted. Can you say "reloads"?

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    When I was up in Jersey earlier this year, I had to "register" with my driver's license in a little book to buy two boxes of .45 from Ramsey Outdoor. Good thing I don't live in Jersey anymore.
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    I used to buy .45 and .357 caliber ammunition from a local gun store before I was 21. The owner had a long gun in each caliber that I bought, i.e. .45 ACP, .357 magnum, etc., and that was his justification.

    Technically, aren't there only a very few hangun only calibers (i.e. .357 sig, .45 GAP)?

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    ParaWarthog wrote:
    I used to buy .45 and .357 caliber ammunition from a local gun store before I was 21.* The owner had a long gun in each caliber that I bought, i.e. .45 ACP, .357 magnum, etc., and that was his justification.

    Technically, aren't there only a very few hangun only calibers (i.e. .357 sig, .45 GAP)?
    Actually there are a lot of HG only cartridges, but most are rather obscure for "Walmart" shopping. So for the most part you would be close to correct.
    "Research has shown that a 230 grain lead pellet placed just behind the ear at 850 FPS results in a permanent cure for violent criminal behavior."
    "If you are not getting Flak, you are not over the target"
    "186,000 Miles per second! ... Not just a good idea ... It's the law!"

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    I knew you'd be able to shed some light on that - thanks Hawkflyer.

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    Citizen wrote:
    Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

    You might avoid provocative actions in public. I can imagine some easily scared sheep thinking that you are making a threat. Then you have to go to the trouble of getting the security tapes to prove to the police you weren't

    Best to not touch you firearm in public. Best to learn a new place to rest your hands. If its any help, in his book, No Second Place Winner, famed gun handler and Border Patrol Agent Bill Jordan points out that it stretches the belt and holster (written back when holsters were all leather.)
    Not to preach, you understand, but I heartily concurr with Citizen.

    BTW, next time you are asked if your ammo is for use in a pistol or a rifle, gravely inform the clerk that it is to be used in your machine gun!

    It's what a lot of the old hands on this forum do, and much consternation and confusion ensues!

    Always good for a laugh.....

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    Well, what category does a Carbine fall under, then?

    I mean, I don't have a 9mm pistol yet, but I like to put 100 or so rounds down range with my 995 every other week or so....
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    TrueBrit wrote:
    BTW, next time you are asked if your ammo is for use in a pistol or a rifle, gravely inform the clerk that it is to be used in your machine gun!
    Actually, my favorite response to this question is "No, why do you ask?"
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    unrequited wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    I remember when I was a youngster... I could not buy .22 ammo and had to ask my uncle to get it for me. This was the one and only time I ever met him too.

    I guess I was probably 12 at the time so it was obvious I was too young.
    What's the statute of limitations on arranging a straw purchase for ammo? *snicker*
    Since it was 28 years ago and in another state.... I am not worried about my Uncle.
    And it's illegal for the ammunition seller to sell it, not for the underage purchaser to purchase it.

    Sir, I don't recall from whom I bought the ammunition from. Wait, Ben and Jerry's!

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    AbNo wrote:
    Well, what category does a Carbine fall under, then?

    I mean, I don't have a 9mm pistol yet, but I like to put 100 or so rounds down range with my 995 every other week or so....
    Your carbine is not really a problem, but what about this puppy?

    1911/Glock conversion

    HEY PRIMER! Do that thing you do-

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    In the 1960's there was a time when all ammo purchases were recorded, AND required ID. I am not certain when this requirement was lifted,

    IIRC, it was a part of GOPA '86.

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