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having a voice recorder in case of bad LEO confrontation

Bubba Ron

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Reverend73 wrote:
I have one, and have it with me every time I OC now. I even went so far as to duct tape it to my chest when we went to the Latino festival in Town Point park last saturday. Got to get me a little microphone for it.
Hey Rev, how'd the race go? I picked up a small microphone for mine - Sony Model ECM-T6 (Tie-Tac Lavaliere Microphone) under $15.
 

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I just received my new voice recorder its a VN-4100PC from Olympus. It was about $60 but it works wonderfully. I wanted something I could start recording when I left the house in the morning and keep running all day. I have found that by the time you start recording a conversation you have usually missed something important. I bought some rechargeable batteries and this recorder will run about 18 hours. It has a shutoff so it doesn’t record dead air, and can pick up most people clearly from inside my pants pocket. Its about 4"x1.5"x0.5" (smaller than my cell phone). The bad however is when it is in my pocket it will often pick up the sound of my jeans rubbing against the mic.



http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/product.asp?product=1291
 

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xmirage2kx wrote:
The bad however is when it is in my pocket it will often pick up the sound of my jeans rubbing against the mic.
http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/product.asp?product=1291

You read that, LEO229? If you don't want your conversation recorded while detaining someone, just have him walk a straight line a la sobriety test during questioning.

That, or shake him or rough him up during questioning.

:D
 

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having a voice recorder in case of bad LEO confrontation
Just curious. Is there such a thing as a good LEO confrontation?

Confrontation would seem to imply something negative.
 

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ilbob wrote:
having a voice recorder in case of bad LEO confrontation
Just curious. Is there such a thing as a good LEO confrontation?

Confrontation would seem to imply something negative.

Well, confrontation seems to be used interchangably for "encounter", as well...

I've had exactly one good encounter. Let's hope I keep that streak... :celebrate
 

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4 results for: confrontation
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
–noun
1.an act of confronting.
2.the state of being confronted.
3.a meeting of persons face to face.
4.an open conflict of opposing ideas, forces, etc.
5.a bringing together of ideas, themes, etc., for comparison.
6.Psychology. a technique used in group therapy, as in encounter groups, in which one is forced to recognize one's shortcomings and their possible consequences.


[Origin: 1625–35; confront + -ation; cf. ML confrontātiō, F, MF confrontation
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American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source con·fron·ta·tion
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n.
  1. The act of confronting or the state of being confronted, especially a meeting face to face.
    1. A conflict involving armed forces: a nuclear confrontation.
    2. Discord or a clash of opinions and ideas: an age of ideological confrontation.
  2. A focused comparison: an essay that brought elements of biography, autobiography, and general European history into powerful, meaningful confrontation.
con'fron·ta'tion·al adj., con'fron·ta'tion·ist n.
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WordNet - Cite This Source confrontation
noun
1.a bold challenge
2.discord resulting from a clash of ideas or opinions
3.a hostile disagreement face-to-face
4.the act of hostile groups opposing each other; "the government was not ready for a confrontation with the unions"; "the invaders encountered stiff opposition"
5.a focussed comparison; bringing together for a careful comparison
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de·no·ta·tion [dee-noh-tey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the explicit or direct meaning or set of meanings of a word or expression, as distinguished from the ideas or meanings associated with it or suggested by it; the association or set of associations that a word usually elicits for most speakers of a language, as distinguished from those elicited for any individual speaker because of personal experience.


con·no·ta·tion [kon-uh-tey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
2. the associated or secondary meaning of a word or expression in addition to its explicit or primary meaning: A possible connotation of “home” is “a place of warmth, comfort, and affection.” Compare denotation (def. 1).



:D
 

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Citizen wrote:
xmirage2kx wrote:
The bad however is when it is in my pocket it will often pick up the sound of my jeans rubbing against the mic.
http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/product.asp?product=1291

You read that, LEO229? If you don't want your conversation recorded while detaining someone, just have him walk a straight line a la sobriety test during questioning.

That, or shake him or rough him up during questioning.

:D

The good news is that you can still hear any conversation going on, it just sounds like it is a very windy day.

Oh and dont put it in a pocket with your car keys :uhoh:, doesnt work to well there.
 

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Pa. Patriot wrote:
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Ditto,great book.
Starts at $9.50 on Amazon.com

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Sure, but why support "Amazon" - the outfit happy to sell you out to anyone who wants to pay them for your information..... instead of the author?

Javelin Press is Boston's own company! Support those who support and fight for your rights! :)
 

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And as far as advising someone, I'm not sure that is necessary. A LEO/citizen encounter is a public, not a private one. Do LEO's inform citizens that their dash cam or audio recording is running???? I doubt it.



I was told I was being video taped and audio recorded when I was pulled over for speeding. I wonder if, since the officer consents to his recording device, that means he consents to yours as well.



Maybe you should wear a shirt that says "conversations monitored and recorded for quality assurance"
 

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longwatch wrote:

That isn't necessary in a forum. If you use the URL tags properly, you can hide any URL by having it display whatever text you want. This works on all of the most popular forum software.

Code:
[url=http://www.somethingreallylongandboring.com/longurl/long.omg]Check This Out[/url]

Example (Using the long and phony URL above):
Check This Out
 

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ilbob wrote:
having a voice recorder in case of bad LEO confrontation
Just curious. Is there such a thing as a good LEO confrontation?

Confrontation would seem to imply something negative.

Perhaps... There was one occasion many years ago when my crap car broke down and I had a shotgun left on the back seat. A local sheriff deputy saw me walking in the middle of nowhere (in the middle of the night as well)and asked me about the abandoned car. He took me back and offered to give it a look. It was dead, and nothing to be done about it, but then he commented that I was illegally transporting the shotgun (I had left the action closed). I assumed he was going to run me in, but he just said to transport it with the action open in the future, then told me to grab it and throw it in the cruiser, and that he'd give me a ride home (about 15 miles).

So... what appeared to be a confrontation turned into a genuine act of kindness. You never know, although I can't really imagine this happening these days.

-ljp
 

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See the southcenter thread in the Washington forum. I wish I'd had one, because all three cops lied on their reports.
 
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