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dhoney75 wrote:
I have created a new thread for you, so that you can have an open and honest discussion with the other members of this thread. Please refrain from posting anything in the "Unlawfully Detained at Southcenter" thread, since it is there to suggest and plan legal actions, not to discuss personal opinions of open carry.
For the purpose of letting you have your voice heard, I have started this thread, and would love to continue any rational discussion with you here. I invite anyone on the board to join in on this discussion.
That being said, I completely disagree with you. The tacoma mall shooting was very upsetting for a lot of us, but it is not a reason to not open carry at malls. Malls are no safer than any other public place, and it is important to remember that the first person to try to stop the shooter at the Tacoma mall was a civilian with a CCW, not a law enforcement officer. I do not carry a gun to intimidate other people, or to play police officer. I carry it to present a positive image of gun owners, by being friendly and courteous to everyone I meet, destroying myths of all gun owners being armed maniacs.
I also open carry because it protects my fiancee and myself from being targets. Some might argue that a "bad guy" would see me as the first target to take out, but from my experience, the presence of a handgun has been nothing but a deterant to any would-be attacker.
As for carrying a gun because I'm a wanna-be cop, that is entirely not true. I do not act like a cop or try to be mistaken for one, as some people do (like the people that carry "concealed weapon permit" badges around their necks, no offense guys, but trying to look like a cop is just not cool). If asked if I am law enforcement, I always respond with a no, and try to use the opportunity to educate someone that may be unaware of open carry rights.
I open carry a lot, and I have never acted in an intimidating manner or tried to use that as some kind of authority. I don't even dress like a cop. I dress nicely, but I don't beleive I am easily mistaken for a police officer. I am an average guy with good intentions and a polite demeanor. I just happen to have a gun on my belt.
I understand if this upsets you, but please know that I do not carry to intimidate ot upsetpeople, and if anyone feels that way they have my deepest sympathy. Aside from the fact that it is far more comfortable, I mostly open carry to present a possitive image of gun owners to the public. I beleive in the spirit of the second amendment, and I want to open the eyes of others to that freedom.
I should also mention that I have a steady full time job and I am not entering into a lawsuit to get rich. I am entering into a lawsuit to try to prevent that and other departments from violating our rights in the future. This is not about money. It's about our constitutional rights, and the fight against gastapo tactics.
I would like to ask everyone to refrain from jumping to the conclusion that this person is an anti. She may be a very avid supporter of the second amendment, but not feel that such a public display was decent. She may be a supporter of open carry, but not in the mall. Let's give her a chance to explain her side of things before we label her as an anti.
dhoney75 wrote:
I am from the Tacoma area and it was not that long ago that our community was disrupted by some crazy, unstable person like yourself that thought it was “ok” to bring weapons into the mall. People’s lives were destroyed that day. What makes you think that anyone would see you any differently then the person that committed that heinous violation of law? My children are exposed to “wanna-be’s” like you that were not able to pass a psych eval and become law enforcement.
As I am reading this “blog” or “thread” I am disgusted by your behavior and your attempt to justify your greediness. It is sad that those of us who support the right to bear arms are compared to unstable persons like yourself.
LEO’s are responsible to follow through with all complaints by businesses and citizens who feel threatened. Frankly if I was confronted by some strange and egotistical person like you I would have called the police as well, I trust that they would do whatever was necessary to ensure the safety of myself and my family.
Don’t take your “wish-I could-be-a-cop” frustrations out on the public and DO NOT try to conceal your mental issues with MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. Any stable human knows that it is not reasonable to open-carry in the public when most Americans are not educated in the rules and respect of gun ownership. People who respect the right to bear arms do not “prance” around in public trying to intimidate others. People who respect the right to bear arms respect the rights of individuals who are not comfortable with guns.
I own several weapons myself and as a woman, I was raised and trained to use them both skillfully and respectfully… I only see you as a weak pitiful person who needs to band together with others and sip some “red-kool-aid.”
Good luck finding some sleaze-bag lawyer to take your case.Get a real job andquit trying to earn aquick buck with your lawsuit.You should be ashamed of yourself...as a multi-generational NRA member, I am ashamed of you.
I have created a new thread for you, so that you can have an open and honest discussion with the other members of this thread. Please refrain from posting anything in the "Unlawfully Detained at Southcenter" thread, since it is there to suggest and plan legal actions, not to discuss personal opinions of open carry.
For the purpose of letting you have your voice heard, I have started this thread, and would love to continue any rational discussion with you here. I invite anyone on the board to join in on this discussion.
That being said, I completely disagree with you. The tacoma mall shooting was very upsetting for a lot of us, but it is not a reason to not open carry at malls. Malls are no safer than any other public place, and it is important to remember that the first person to try to stop the shooter at the Tacoma mall was a civilian with a CCW, not a law enforcement officer. I do not carry a gun to intimidate other people, or to play police officer. I carry it to present a positive image of gun owners, by being friendly and courteous to everyone I meet, destroying myths of all gun owners being armed maniacs.
I also open carry because it protects my fiancee and myself from being targets. Some might argue that a "bad guy" would see me as the first target to take out, but from my experience, the presence of a handgun has been nothing but a deterant to any would-be attacker.
As for carrying a gun because I'm a wanna-be cop, that is entirely not true. I do not act like a cop or try to be mistaken for one, as some people do (like the people that carry "concealed weapon permit" badges around their necks, no offense guys, but trying to look like a cop is just not cool). If asked if I am law enforcement, I always respond with a no, and try to use the opportunity to educate someone that may be unaware of open carry rights.
I open carry a lot, and I have never acted in an intimidating manner or tried to use that as some kind of authority. I don't even dress like a cop. I dress nicely, but I don't beleive I am easily mistaken for a police officer. I am an average guy with good intentions and a polite demeanor. I just happen to have a gun on my belt.
I understand if this upsets you, but please know that I do not carry to intimidate ot upsetpeople, and if anyone feels that way they have my deepest sympathy. Aside from the fact that it is far more comfortable, I mostly open carry to present a possitive image of gun owners to the public. I beleive in the spirit of the second amendment, and I want to open the eyes of others to that freedom.
I should also mention that I have a steady full time job and I am not entering into a lawsuit to get rich. I am entering into a lawsuit to try to prevent that and other departments from violating our rights in the future. This is not about money. It's about our constitutional rights, and the fight against gastapo tactics.
I would like to ask everyone to refrain from jumping to the conclusion that this person is an anti. She may be a very avid supporter of the second amendment, but not feel that such a public display was decent. She may be a supporter of open carry, but not in the mall. Let's give her a chance to explain her side of things before we label her as an anti.