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    I've been seeing a lot about non-resident Flordia permits lately, and decided to research it a little farther. I've already got my Texas permit but will probably be getting a Flordia one along with my wife.



    Where this post applies to military is that you don't have to have any special training to get a Flordia CCW permit. Just make a copy of your Military ID Card and send it in with the package. The state of Flordia considers you being in the miltary to be enough training to qualify for a permit. This makes things a lot cheaper for us also.



    Directly from the "how to apply page"


    Get verification of training that satisfies the training requirement. The application lists acceptable documents. Make a photocopy to send with the application as an original cannot be returned. Persons serving in the United States Armed Forces may submit a copy of their Military ID Card to satisfy the training requirement.


    http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html



    My wife is also Military so this will simplfy the process and also make things cheaper for her/us.



    Just thought some of ya'll might like to know this.



    While on the topic of CCW permits in Texas if you are a member of the Armed Services (National Guard, Reserve, Active, Ect.) you can apply and hold a Texas concealed carry permit at the age of 18.

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    Fees are 117 dollars for inital lisence then 107 every 5 years after that (renewal) for non Flordia Residents. Flordia Residents get to pay 65 dollars for renewal.

    http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/license/fees.html

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    The Florida permit is probably the quickest and easiest to obtain.

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    it actually covers more states than my Texas CCW permit covers. I'm going to get the wifey one then later I'll get one to go along with my TX CCW>

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    Wow. I need to move to Texas...or get stationed there...

    hmmm...

    My real question is this.

    I am 18, stationed at Ft Bragg, North carolina (Iraq at the moment, home soon), and a resident of washington. Now, can I apply for a texas CCW permit, being a non-resident? and if so, could I use this permit in other states? (looking up recipcrosity as i type this)

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    FL is a great state to have and I just sent for my application also! I'm getting my Utah as well and will have "The Big 3"; Virginia, Utah and Florida. Florida costs more, but you can get it in the mail, like you said. The Utah permit has a mandatory training requirement for everyone, but costs less. Training is always good, so it's really no big deal.

    OBW, Utah DOES have a list of out of state instructors whose training they accept!

    Here's their page: http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPHome.html

    Attached is the list of out of state Utah Instructors.Get a course by one of them, send in the complete application with fingerprint cards and paymentand you're good to go!

    OBW, on the list of Utah out-of-state instructors, you'll find our very own Philip Van Cleve (VCDLPresident), VCDL EM Bruce Jackson and VCDL Treasurer Kenneth Elliot!

    EDIT: I just spoke to EM Bruce Jackson and he DOES still do training for both Virginia AND Utah (alternating weekends), so if you're in NOVA and interested in training for either (or BOTH),contact Bruce!
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    Thank you for the information. I was going to geta Louisiana CCW, but if I can skip the training (which I've had over and over) and save some money, this is great. i just requested an application. Thanks!

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    Paratrooper82 wrote:
    Wow. I need to move to Texas...or get stationed there...

    hmmm...

    My real question is this.

    I am 18, stationed at Ft Bragg, North carolina (Iraq at the moment, home soon), and a resident of washington. Now, can I apply for a texas CCW permit, being a non-resident? and if so, could I use this permit in other states? (looking up recipcrosity as i type this)

    -John
    I am unsure of Texas non-resident permits I've never really looked into it but if you go to this website you should be able to find an awnser somewhere.

    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis.../chlsindex.htm

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    It appears that Louisiana has a military deal too. But you must show proof of training inorder for them to qualify you.

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    WhiteRabbit22 wrote:
    It appears that Louisiana has a military deal too. But you must show proof of training inorder for them to qualify you.
    All I needed to show was my DD214 to get mine. Nothing to do with training.

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    Paratrooper82 wrote:
    Wow. I need to move to Texas...or get stationed there...

    hmmm...

    My real question is this.

    I am 18, stationed at Ft Bragg, North carolina (Iraq at the moment, home soon), and a resident of washington. Now, can I apply for a texas CCW permit, being a non-resident? and if so, could I use this permit in other states? (looking up recipcrosity as i type this)

    -John
    The main thing you need to look at is the age requirement. Most states are 21 even if you are military.

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    I used my military service DD form 214 to prove weapons training to get my CCP in MT

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    I was told the only way you get you DD214 is if you are seperated or retired from the service. In FL all I did was send a copy of my ID card.

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    In some states as long as you are seperated under honorable conditions then they will accept your DD214 as proof of training.

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    dlnwoody wrote:
    I was told the only way you get you DD214 is if you are seperated or retired from the service. In FL all I did was send a copy of my ID card.
    Exactly. Active Duty only requires copy of ID card, correct. Separated or retired needs DD-214. Getting my prints for FL non-res tomorrow!

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    this is how it works in ohio also..

    if you're in the military or le all you have to do is file the paper work no need for a training class.

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    Louisiana has a crazy way of doing it. When I first got my permit I used my DD-214 and since I've had to take refresher course twice to renew mine. Over a period of 11 yrs.

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    Okay, Im trying to understand this, but it is a little confusing.

    I am a resident of the state of Delaware. I want to get my CCDW. I am in the Air Force. If I want my CCDW from Florida, all I have to do is send them the packet and a copy of my Military ID card? DE and FL have reciprocity so that's not an issue.

    Please advise.

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    Well if I had the power to do so I would make a national canceled carry permit that would be good in all 50 states. I would go by the basic standards of VA and other similar states. I would make a exception for the military. They could be under 21. If we can trust them with M16's and all the other firepower we can trust them with a handgun.

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    The first part about a CPL good for all 50 states I agree with. The one about under 21 for military just because they shoot M16s and all the fire power. I highly disagree. I am in themilitary and have seen people shoot. I would not trust them carrying a BB gun but there are people under 21 that I could see giving them their CPL. I just don't think because they are military they should get one. I'm glad to see someone giving the troops some support.

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    dlnwoody wrote:
    The first part about a CPL good for all 50 states I agree with. The one about under 21 for military just because they shoot M16s and all the fire power. I highly disagree. I am in themilitary and have seen people shoot. I would not trust them carrying a BB gun but there are people under 21 that I could see giving them their CPL. I just don't think because they are military they should get one. I'm glad to see someone giving the troops some support.
    We had a guy in my unit that we would't give ammo to.

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    jeepinbanditrider wrote:
    Just make a copy of your Military ID Card and send it in with the package. The state of Flordia considers you being in the miltary to be enough training to qualify for a permit.






    While that sounds fine and dandy and all. I have my concerns about that. There are alota high tech people out there that can make fake military ID's just from a photo copy. I'm not to keen on it as I have no clue who handles it. If other photo copies get made. I'd hate to have my ID info with someone elses face on it trying to make a fake to get base access.
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    That would be a felony, and therefor make them ineligible for the permit. Plus they had to state that all information was correct, so they could be charged with purgery as well.

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    photocopy then Check YES on line 13

    Just make a copy of your Military ID Card and send it in with the package. The state of Flordia considers you being in the miltary to be enough training to qualify for a permit.
    Yeah asswipe, then be sure to check the box on the application where it asks if you've ever broken federal law.

    It is illegal to make a photocopy of a military ID, 18 USC section 701.

    Title 18, US Code Part I, Chapter 33, Section 701

    "Whoever manufactures, sells, or possesses any badge,
    identification card, or other insignia, of the design prescribed by
    the head of any department or agency of the United States for use
    by any officer or employee thereof, or any colorable imitation
    thereof, or photographs, prints, or in any other manner makes or
    executes any engraving, photograph, print, or impression in the
    likeness of any such badge, identification card, or other insignia,
    or any colorable imitation thereof, except as authorized under
    regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title
    or imprisoned not more than six months, or both."




    We have a hard enough time with homeland security without shitbrains like you advising people to send of their military ID's for AlQuaeda to clone.

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    Read the law again. It is not illegal to send a copy of your military ID to a government agency.

    ....except as authorized under regulations made pursuant to law....
    Acceptable Training Documentation
    Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or military service (persons serving in the United States Armed Forces may submit a copy of their Military ID Card; discharged persons may submit a copy of the DD-214);
    You can be treated at a civilian hospital, where no military hospital is available, and your 'insurance card' is your military ID. The hospital makes a copy of your military ID so that the hospital can bill the military for your treatment. It can be a convoluted process, but it does work.

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