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    Hello all,

    I live in VA but I'm coming up to PA in Sept and going to a Penn State game. Can you CC or OC at the game? Has anyone done either and if so I just want to make sure it's legal as I don't know PA laws the way I do with VA. Any help will be much appreciated.



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    Diesel23 wrote:
    Hello all,

    I live in VA but I'm coming up to PA in Sept and going to a Penn State game. Can you CC or OC at the game? Has anyone done either and if so I just want to make sure it's legal as I don't know PA laws the way I do with VA. Any help will be much appreciated.



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    Weapons, along with many other things are not allowed in the Statium, let alone in the parking lot.

    Go to the link I provided below, scroll down quite a bit and you will find their official policies regarding what you can and cannot have.

    Hope this helps!

    http://www.psu.edu/sports/football/99stadiumrules.html

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    I've carried concealed there several times.

    There is no law against carrying at PSU only their policy not to allow it.

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    Steve in PA wrote:
    I've carried concealed there several times.

    There is no law against carrying at PSU only their policy not to allow it.
    So then it's like Virginia, where you can get expelled by the school but it's not against the law?

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    Steve,

    At Beaver Stadium do they have anything to detect the firearm? Also, are any searches done when you go to the game?

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    No searches whenever I was there. I've been down to PSU many times as my kids go to school there. My daughter, who was on the PSU Blue Band graduated last year, and my son graduates this year.

    Correct about the school. If you are a student, you could very well get expelled because it would be seen as a violation of the school policy.

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    Steve in PA wrote:
    No searches whenever I was there. I've been down to PSU many times as my kids go to school there. My daughter, who was on the PSU Blue Band graduated last year, and my son graduates this year.

    Correct about the school. If you are a student, you could very well get expelled because it would be seen as a violation of the school policy.
    No, it would probably be a trespass, if they wanted to push the issue. But not unlawful, to my knowledge.

    If you decide to carry anyway, make sure you have a good holster, getting up and down a lot may cause printing or some of the firearm to show.


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    openryan wrote:
    Steve in PA wrote:
    No searches whenever I was there. I've been down to PSU many times as my kids go to school there. My daughter, who was on the PSU Blue Band graduated last year, and my son graduates this year.

    Correct about the school. If you are a student, you could very well get expelled because it would be seen as a violation of the school policy.
    No, it would probably be a trespass, if they wanted to push the issue.
    How can it be "tresspass" when entering state property carrying a gun pursuant to a state license to carry a gun throughout the commonwealth - these types of haphazard comments about "tresspass" need to stop.

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    I was under the impression that if it was posted, and the owner or the venue or someone acting on their behalf were to catch wind of it, that you could be asked to leave or if the police wanted to, arrest you for a trespass.





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    Hi Mike,

    So do you think I can CC while at the game? I just want to make sure I am following the laws.



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    openryan wrote:
    I was under the impression that if it was posted, and the owner or the venue or someone acting on their behalf were to catch wind of it, that you could be asked to leave or if the police wanted to, arrest you for a trespass.
    In PA rules signs (including "No Guns" signs carry no legal weight.

    You can not be tresspassing until and if you are asked/told in person and you refuse.
    The next day the process starts over again



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    Diesel23 wrote:
    ...So do you think I can CC while at the game? I just want to make sure I am following the laws.
    In a nutshell:

    1) There is no "law" preventing you from carrying at the games.
    2) It is known that the property owner doe snot allow frearms.
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    3) The most they can do is ask you to leave IF you get caught.


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    Everyone, thanks for all the feedback.



    PA Patriot, thanks for clearing this up for me.

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    Diesel23 wrote:
    Hi Mike,

    So do you think I can CC while at the game? I just want to make sure I am following the laws.

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    if you have a PA LTCF or fully accepted CHP, I do not see how you would be violating any PA criminal law at all.

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    Its not trespassing.

    Signs saying "no guns" mean nothing in PA. If you are found carrying, asked to leave then refuse.....then its trespassing.

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    Steve in PA wrote:
    Its not trespassing.

    Signs saying "no guns" mean nothing in PA. If you are found carrying, asked to leave then refuse.....then its trespassing.
    Possibly yes, however, PSU is a state college and is bound by PA state law - PA state law provides LTCF the universal privilege to carry htruought the commonwealth. Whether PSU could evict upon threat of tresspassing a LTCF holder from an event open to the public is an open question.

    Localities of course are explicitly preempted. State agencies are not explicitly preempted, but by implication, in my opinion, are preempted.

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    Wrong. Its still considered private property. If found carrying you can be asked to leave. Refuse and you are trespassing.

    There is no provision or exception for a "state school" whatever that is. Its the same thing as carrying in a mall. They cannot charge you with a crime for carrying in a mall, but you can be asked to leave. Refuse and you are trespassing.

    PSU says no coolers allowed inside. There is no law against taking a cooler inside, but you won't be allowed in. Refuse to leave and you are a trespasser.

    PSU says no knives either. There is no law against carrying a knife, but if security sees you with one you'll probably be asked to leave or give it up. Refuse to leave and you are now trespassing.

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    This maybe a newbie question but what is LTCF?



    I have a VA CHP and since PA has a recpritory agreement with VA I should be fine?

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    Diesel23 wrote:
    This maybe a newbie question but what is LCTF?



    I have a VA CHP and since PA has a recpritory agreement with VA I should be fine?
    In short LTCF = License To Carry Firearm.

    Some states issue CCW's Carry Concealed Weapons permit, Indiana as well as many other have LCTF's

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    Ok thanks for clearing that up OpenRyan.

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    It's a common misconception that PSU is a state school. I thought the same thing until I was corrected. It is not a member of the Pennsylvania state system of higher education. It does receive some state money but is a private school.

    http://www.passhe.edu/content/?/universities

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    I'd call it a hybrid. Note the following from Pennsylvania Act 55 of 1997.



    (B) REAL PROPERTY.-- All real property owned by state-related universitities, or owned by the commonwealth and used by a state-related university, is and shall be deemed public property for purposes of the constitution of Pennsylvania and laws of this commonweatlh relating to the assessment, taxation, and exemption of real estate and shall be exempt from all state and local taxation when actually and regularly used for public purposes.



    There are four "state-related" universities. Penn State, Pitt, Temple, and Lincoln U. An example of a private universityis the University of Pennsylvania (Penn).

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