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Open Handling?

openryan

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Legba wrote:
Sorry - I couldn't find any Delaware-specific charge concerning brandishing a firearm in the state criminal code. Maybe it's legal (bwahahaha, right).

-ljp
Maybe it would be 'causing alarm'?
 

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openryan wrote:
I don't understand how he ran anyone off. It was a matter of opinion and the opening post, although not 100% clear by any stretch about what answers he wanted. HankT was certainly not pushing anything onto him that he did not solicit.

I don't think he ran him off.

I did not have any trouble understanding his question. I believe he was asking people's opinion on the matter and for a link to a law that dealt with the issue. And he got answers on both questions; people's opinion and the answer that legba couldn't find a law.

But that's just my 2 cents, and it's not worth arguing over, in my opinion. It doesn't really matter either way.
 

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I would strongly suggest you not do this in any public place. Not only would this most likely be construed as brandishing, but I'm sure an LEO could come up with some other little niceties to make your day. And then there isthis.

I happen to know of an event where a Falls Church police officer pulled out his sidearm to show a man in a drug store. The weapon discharged, killing the man.. who was a teacher at George Mason Jr.Sr. High School in Falls Church.
 

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only law I can find specifically sights brandishing to be in a threatening manner...

NRS 202.320 Drawing deadly weapon in threatening manner. 1. Unless a greater penalty is provided in NRS 202.287, a person having, carrying or procuring from another person any dirk, dirk-knife, sword, sword cane, pistol, gun or other deadly weapon, who, in the presence of two or more persons, draws or exhibits any of such deadly weapons in a rude, angry or threatening manner not in necessary self-defense, or who in any manner unlawfully uses that weapon in any fight or quarrel, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
2. A sheriff, deputy sheriff, marshal, constable or other peace officer shall not be held to answer, under the provisions of subsection 1, for drawing or exhibiting any of the weapons mentioned therein while in the lawful discharge of his duties.
[1911 C&P § 174; RL § 6439; NCL § 10121]—(NRS A 1967, 486; 1989, 1240)
 

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My thoughts? No frikkin' way. Not with my gun, not in public.

At the range, or in private, sure, after I unload, clear, and lock, and if I trust you. Maybe.
 

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Tomahawk wrote:
My thoughts? No frikkin' way. Not with my gun, not in public.

At the range, or in private, sure, after I unload, clear, and lock, and if I trust you. Maybe.
Nothing like getting pistol whipped with your own piece... :p
 

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Tomahawk wrote:
My thoughts? No frikkin' way. Not with my gun, not in public.

At the range, or in private, sure, after I unload, clear, and lock, and if I trust you. Maybe.
I dunno, Tomahawk, the OP might not like your reply. He says he wasonly "inquiring as to specific knowledge about possible code violations..."

;)
 

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Or the unlikely but possible event that said person removes a single bullet from their pocket, racks it and shoots you :shock:


openryan wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:
My thoughts? No frikkin' way. Not with my gun, not in public.

At the range, or in private, sure, after I unload, clear, and lock, and if I trust you. Maybe.
Nothing like getting pistol whipped with your own piece... :p
 

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Bravo_Sierra wrote:
Or the unlikely but possible event that said person removes a single bullet from their pocket, racks it and shoots you :shock:


openryan wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:
My thoughts? No frikkin' way. Not with my gun, not in public.

At the range, or in private, sure, after I unload, clear, and lock, and if I trust you. Maybe.
Nothing like getting pistol whipped with your own piece... :p
They would probably have to carry several bullets unless they have some way of knowing your caliber before the act itself.
 

kurtmax_0

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Legba wrote:
Sorry - I couldn't find any Delaware-specific charge concerning brandishing a firearm in the state criminal code. Maybe it's legal (bwahahaha, right). It presumably falls under disorderly conduct or some such, in the absense of a specific charge.

-ljp

Gotta love DC. If you can't charge 'em with anything, just slap 'em with DC!!!
 

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You mean you didn't disable yours?

You must be kidding....

If you want a handgun w/o a magazine safety, buy one that starts out that way. I can't think of a worse thing to do* than custom mod a firearm so that it operates in a way different than described in the manual of arms.

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*OK, that's clearly an exaggeration: there are plenty of things worse, but it's still a very bad idea IMO.
 

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dngreer wrote:
Where's the popcorn? This should be good...:)
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kparker wrote:
You mean you didn't disable yours?

You must be kidding....

If you want a handgun w/o a magazine safety, buy one that starts out that way. I can't think of a worse thing to do* than custom mod a firearm so that it operates in a way different than described in the manual of arms.

[line]
*OK, that's clearly an exaggeration: there are plenty of things worse, but it's still a very bad idea IMO.


Suit yourself.
 

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Tomahawk wrote:
kparker wrote:
You mean you didn't disable yours?

You must be kidding....

If you want a handgun w/o a magazine safety, buy one that starts out that way. I can't think of a worse thing to do* than custom mod a firearm so that it operates in a way different than described in the manual of arms.

[line]
*OK, that's clearly an exaggeration: there are plenty of things worse, but it's still a very bad idea IMO.


Suit yourself.

I could never figure out why the manufacturers decided to commonly make semi-autos with and without mag disconnects. Pretty much guarantees a certain type of fatal mistake.Not that many, too be sure. But over time...

I'm thinking of buying a semi-auto handgun with a magazine safety. Then I would have the weird pleasure of disabling it. I think that is so cool.

I have a lever gun with a crossbolt safety on it. I think Ima gonna disable that one too. You can never be too anti-safety. :p
 

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HankT wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:
kparker wrote:
You mean you didn't disable yours?

You must be kidding....

If you want a handgun w/o a magazine safety, buy one that starts out that way. I can't think of a worse thing to do* than custom mod a firearm so that it operates in a way different than described in the manual of arms.

[line]
*OK, that's clearly an exaggeration: there are plenty of things worse, but it's still a very bad idea IMO.


Suit yourself.

I could never figure out why the manufacturers decided to commonly make semi-autos with and without mag disconnects. Pretty much guarantees a certain type of fatal mistake.Not that many, too be sure. But over time...

I'm thinking of buying a semi-auto handgun with a magazine safety. Then I would have the weird pleasure of disabling it. I think that is so cool.

I have a lever gun with a crossbolt safety on it. I think Ima gonna disable that one too. You can never be too anti-safety. :p
My first auto-pistol has a mag safety, and back when I bought it, I was not too knowledgable about such things. Turns out that all the pistols from that manufacturer were equipped with them, mainly because they were trying to market them to lawsuit-conscious LE agencies. After reading lots about it, I found that magazine safeties could be a serious liability in a fight, and they also lent a false sense of security to a neophyte. Also, I dislike not being able to de-cock it without inserting a mag. My particular model is very easy to disable the mag safety without using tools, and I can re-enable it in the few minutes it takes to break it down for cleaning, and I do not have to remove or alter any factory parts. So I disabled it. If I ever sell it or see some other need, I can re-enable it. A firearm is a tool: as long as you make sure you know what you are doing, you may as well get it to do what you want.
 

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Tomahawk wrote:
HankT wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:
Suit yourself.

I could never figure out why the manufacturers decided to commonly make semi-autos with and without mag disconnects. Pretty much guarantees a certain type of fatal mistake.Not that many, too be sure. But over time...

I'm thinking of buying a semi-auto handgun with a magazine safety. Then I would have the weird pleasure of disabling it. I think that is so cool.

I have a lever gun with a crossbolt safety on it. I think Ima gonna disable that one too. You can never be too anti-safety. :p
My first auto-pistol has a mag safety, and back when I bought it, I was not too knowledgable about such things. Turns out that all the pistols from that manufacturer were equipped with them, mainly because they were trying to market them to lawsuit-conscious LE agencies. After reading lots about it, I found that magazine safeties could be a serious liability in a fight, and they also lent a false sense of security to a neophyte. Also, I dislike not being able to de-cock it without inserting a mag. My particular model is very easy to disable the mag safety without using tools, and I can re-enable it in the few minutes it takes to break it down for cleaning, and I do not have to remove or alter any factory parts. So I disabled it. If I ever sell it or see some other need, I can re-enable it. A firearm is a tool: as long as you make sure you know what you are doing, you may as well get it to do what you want.

How is a mag disconnecta "serious liability in a fight?"

And how does it lend "a false sense of security to a neophyte?"
 

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HankT wrote:
How is a mag disconnecta "serious liability in a fight?"

And how does it lend "a false sense of security to a neophyte?"

If you are changing magazines with one still in the pipe your pistol is useless until you finish the mag change.

The false sense of security I spoke of can be attributed to pretty much any safety device, in this case a newbie who thinks his pistol is safe because he doesn't have a magazine inserted must be disabused of the notion.

In the end it's personal preference. 1911s don't have magazine safeties, and this makes them no less safe than any other pistol. Plus they can conveniently be decocked without inserting a magazine, which I like.

The real safety is the one between your ears. (Or your butt cheeks in some cases)
 
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