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Pa. Patriot wrote:
zoom6zoom wrote:
Also make sure the receiving FFL will accept shipments from non-FFL's. Some won't.
True, good point. There are a few that will not (they are idiots) but most will.
The ones that won't have some misconception that they are taking on a liability of some mythical sort by receiving a firearm from a non dealer. Of course it is bogus.
I recommend avoiding the ones that do not as they are likely misinformed about other things as well. And many simply do not want to do transfers and they use this as an excuse for their preference that you buy from them. Of course savy dealers do transfers and welcome the practice as it gets people in the door that will otherwise never see their store. Some are too stupid to think past their nose but I digress
Yes, by now most FFLs have gotten the word. It's quite legal for a a non-FFL person to ship to a FFL. For a while it was fascinating to listen to uninformed FFLs just make up reasons why they couldn't accept such shipments. Old habits die hard. It's always the same: the old farts think because they have the
power to say no, that it
must be right.
zoom6zoom wrote:
2. If you ship it, you must ship UPS or FedEx overnight, $$$$. An FFL can ship it insured priority mail for you. A handgun with insurance will usually run about $15 postage, plus the FFL transfer fee on your end.
As I pointed out this ONLY applies to HANGUNS.
And technically you can ship it ground per the law. Only UPS/Fed-EX policy prevents ground shipments of handguns.
If you ship a handgun via ground and it is stolen/lost/etc you will likely have no insurance recourse due to breaking the rules.
No, I don't think this is correct, PP. I don't think a non-FFL can"technically...ship it ground per the law." It is, of course, contract carrier policy torequire that a handgun go via a certain level of service, viz, priority or overnite.
Butfederal law
also says that the shipment of a handgun must be declared to the carrier as a firearm.
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]
http://ww.gunbroker.com/Support/SupportFAQView.asp?FAQID=1118&NoCount=1
There is a way that some supposedly-savvy shippers get around thecarrier policy (they ignore the federal requirement) but it's not very good. I wouldn't do it. I think it's just a subterfuge. It's asking for trouble, even beyond the loss claim aspects.
