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3 Killed in Mo. Church Shooting

Deacon Blues

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This sort of incident is a real lightning rod for me; fitting that this should be my first post.

Some of the most pacifistic religious leaders in history have supported the right to self-defense. Gandhi said that violence was necessary if you couldn't protect your family or community otherwise. Just a few years ago, I heard Tenzin Gyatso, the Dalai Lama, say that if someone shoots at you, it is reasonable to shoot back. I'm not sure why some people think God must be opposed to self-defense, but in a world-conscious and historic persepective, it is an extreme view.

FWIW, if someone came into my church waving a gun and making threats, there would be a half dozen smoking guns and a very different headline. There would probably be a picture of our minister with his .357 on the front page.

BTW, "God helps those who help themselves" is not in the Bible; Ben Franklin penned that in Poor Richard's Almanac (just clearing up a common error).
 

Doug Huffman

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Bless you and welcome!

I noticed elsewhere that the 1993 St. James Massacre and Charl Van Wyk's book Shooting Back: The Right and Duty of Self-Defense (Christian Liberty Books, Cape Town, South Africa, 2001 ISBN 0 620-28120-0) is creeping back into the mainstream consicousness.

Its Dedication;
This book is dedicated to all the victims of crime - who did not have the means to defend themselves and to all those people living in gun-free zones - who do not have the right to defend themselves.
My copy took about six months to be delivered by Amazon.com. I am afraid that was their comment of the RKABA.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA KMA$$
 

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What bugs me about the reporting and the marketing is that the weapon was described as a "semiautomatic machine pistol commonly known as a Tech-9". This confuses the readers into thinking that it was a machine gun that was used and therfore anyone having a Tech-9 has a machine gun, proving that machine guns are prevalent and need to be banned.

A few years back the Intratec website even called the Tech-9 a machine pistol so the reporting is not but so inaccurate but nevertheless inaccurate and irresponsible, feeding us sensationalism as always.
 

tarzan1888

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UTOC-45-44 wrote:
tarzan1888 wrote:
HankT wrote:
LoveMyCountry wrote:
My wife and I both open carry. At church we conceal. Why? Because our message of liberty and defense of life is less important than a message of Eternal Life and we don't want to distract anybody from hearing it.
Nicely said.

HankT

There you go getting me to agree with you again. :what:


tarzan1888..., What th H**l is wrong with you?:p:p:p
I don't know what came over me, but "don't worry about me going to Hell, I repent to Damn fast" JGK
 

UTOC-45-44

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tarzan1888 wrote:
UTOC-45-44 wrote:
tarzan1888 wrote:
HankT wrote:
LoveMyCountry wrote:
My wife and I both open carry. At church we conceal. Why? Because our message of liberty and defense of life is less important than a message of Eternal Life and we don't want to distract anybody from hearing it.
Nicely said.

HankT

There you go getting me to agree with you again. :what:


tarzan1888..., What th H**l is wrong with you?:p:p:p
I don't know what came over me, but "don't worry about me going to Hell, I repent to Damn fast" JGK
LMAO


I LOVE JGK...He's FUUUNY
 

tarzan1888

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UTOC-45-44 wrote:
tarzan1888 wrote:
UTOC-45-44 wrote:
tarzan1888 wrote:
HankT wrote:
LoveMyCountry wrote:
My wife and I both open carry. At church we conceal. Why? Because our message of liberty and defense of life is less important than a message of Eternal Life and we don't want to distract anybody from hearing it.
Nicely said.

HankT

There you go getting me to agree with you again. :what:


tarzan1888..., What th H**l is wrong with you?:p:p:p
I don't know what came over me, but "don't worry about me going to Hell, I repent to Damn fast" JGK
LMAO


I LOVE JGK...He's FUUUNY

I don't know why, but for some reason I thought that you would get a kick out of that.
 

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